Calling on you gamers

[popcorn_skollie]

I see there is currently a push back agaist RGB. More and more Blackout components are becoming available. Manufacturers has gone too far with this I believe. I am still trying to get my ASUS Aura Sync not to crash the Lightning Service when I open the app. I have tried everything. And my Corsair iCUE keeps on crashing on Windows shutdown. It's a complete joke.

 

I'm not against it at all. Everyone has different tastes. I'd rather have the option because I could always turn it off. I've seen setups where lighting and rpm could be synced to thermals automatically. That's pretty useful. But I guess it narrows down compatibility options. As sleek as murdered out setups are a degree of case illumination is still useful. But you're right. They definitely went too far. They wont stop because people keep buying it. I see there are rgb chairs now too. And Razor just dropped some credit card that also illuminates.

 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

I see there is currently a push back agaist RGB. More and more Blackout components are becoming available. Manufacturers has gone too far with this I believe. I am still trying to get my ASUS Aura Sync not to crash the Lightning Service when I open the app. I have tried everything. And my Corsair iCUE keeps on crashing on Windows shutdown. It's a complete joke.

I think there's a pushback against "distasteful" RGB where it seems as if a Unicorn on psychedelics just threw up in a box and applied a charge to it. 

 

Rainbow effects, different tones between manufacturers, bad implementation, not ENOUGH LED's (so it seems like it's a bunch of fireflies together in a jar) and so on. 

 

I prefer RGB because it lets me choose the aesthetic that works for me. My keyboard (before it got coffee all over it and died) was RGB and I had it on a soft phasing regime, which was very pleasing. My current KB has the same red as VW's instrumentation in the 2000's, which is, frankly, atrocious. I'd love to be able to switch to a blue / purple / white, but I can't. That means I'll be shelling out more for an RGB kboard when it's replaced. 

 

Ashiq's temp-linked RGB implementation sounds like the kinda thing I'd be able to get along with nicely. But I think that the push back to monochrome is because of this shoddy RGB Unicorn vom we saw recently, when EVERYONE had it, and it had to look like the inside of a caleidoscope. 

[dev null]

I'm not against it at all. Everyone has different tastes. I'd rather have the option because I could always turn it off. I've seen setups where lighting and rpm could be synced to thermals automatically. That's pretty useful. But I guess it narrows down compatibility options. As sleek as murdered out setups are a degree of case illumination is still useful. But you're right. They definitely went too far. They wont stop because people keep buying it. I see there are rgb chairs now too. And Razor just dropped some credit card that also illuminates.

 

 

I use it moderately, when it actually works. For my Corsair K70 keyboard, the feature is very usefull. My PC is build around the Tron Legacy theme, if only I can get that ASUS Auro Sync to work so that the Mobo and memory RGB play ball to support the theme.

[popcorn_skollie]

https://www.pocket-lint.com/laptops/news/154125-how-to-watch-the-amd-zen-3-reveal-on-8-october

 

https://youtu.be/iuiO6rqYV4o

 

Intel investors are gonna be like those podium sitters watching Minnaar do his run.

Ryzen's new launch go's live later.

Edited October 8, 2020 by popcorn_skollie

[popcorn_skollie]

I think there's a pushback against "distasteful" RGB where it seems as if a Unicorn on psychedelics just threw up in a box and applied a charge to it. 

 

Rainbow effects, different tones between manufacturers, bad implementation, not ENOUGH LED's (so it seems like it's a bunch of fireflies together in a jar) and so on. 

 

I prefer RGB because it lets me choose the aesthetic that works for me. My keyboard (before it got coffee all over it and died) was RGB and I had it on a soft phasing regime, which was very pleasing. My current KB has the same red as VW's instrumentation in the 2000's, which is, frankly, atrocious. I'd love to be able to switch to a blue / purple / white, but I can't. That means I'll be shelling out more for an RGB kboard when it's replaced. 

 

Ashiq's temp-linked RGB implementation sounds like the kinda thing I'd be able to get along with nicely. But I think that the push back to monochrome is because of this shoddy RGB Unicorn vom we saw recently, when EVERYONE had it, and it had to look like the inside of a caleidoscope. 

When I cleaned my laaitie's blue lit keyboard it had this brown glow from all the flings and maries. 

[dev null]

When I cleaned my laaitie's blue lit keyboard it had this brown glow from all the flings and maries. 

 

You don't want to know what I had to do to get my son's Corsair K95 working. He dumped a cup of hot chocolate over it, besides all the bits of chips and cookies to found around the keys. He plays just about only League Of Legends.

[Rocket-Boy]

You don't want to know what I had to do to get my son's Corsair K95 working. He dumped a cup of hot chocolate over it, besides all the bits of chips and cookies to found around the keys. He plays just about only League Of Legends.

Man if you can survive the toxic community that is LoL then you can handle any community!

 

I have had to do the full "remove all keys, disassemble and clean" more than once with my keyboard

[dev null]

Man if you can survive the toxic community that is LoL then you can handle any community!

 

I have had to do the full "remove all keys, disassemble and clean" more than once with my keyboard

 

He is quite decent at it. His current ELO is Gold 4. His is quite a chilled boy. He does not easily let salty comments get to him, unlike me. In my first PvP game in LoL people were telling me I was gonna get reported for feeding within the first minute. 

[Amberdrake]

He is quite decent at it. His current ELO is Gold 4. His is quite a chilled boy. He does not easily let salty comments get to him, unlike me. In my first PvP game in LoL people were telling me I was gonna get reported for feeding within the first minute. 

I had this in overwatch once..... I muted him. The team was playing so defensively (IE defensive of themselves running away) that they were not getting close to the payload at all. I was in there as a tank all the time pushing taking hits and "feeding". Some times its just not worth it.

[dev null]

https://www.pocket-lint.com/laptops/news/154125-how-to-watch-the-amd-zen-3-reveal-on-8-october

 

https://youtu.be/iuiO6rqYV4o

 

Intel investors are gonna be like those podium sitters watching Minnaar do his run.

Ryzen's new launch go's live later.

 

Not too impressed with their pricing. For most people the current 3600 and 3300X will make much more sense. I expect the 5600X to sell locally for about R6500. And that will be the cheapest offering for Zen 3 as it stands. Most people will not pay that for a CPU.

Edited October 9, 2020 by Moridin

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Not too impressed with their pricing. For most people the current 3600 and 3300X will make much more sense. I expect the 5600X to sell locally for about R6500. And that will be the cheapest offering for Zen 3 as it stands. Most people will not pay that for a CPU.

Yeah, they're $50 more than their previous gen counterparts. But. That doesn't mean there's not gonna be a normal 5600, or a 5300 etc etc. The 3600 (not 3600x) is a beast, and will likely be the chip of choice going forwards when pairing with a b550 x570 board, because you can still upgrade later. Or the 1600AF, even.

 

An important point, though. AMD have historically competed on a price to performance perspective. That's what got them to the 25% market share. They're now shifting to a quality based offering, instead. To get them mo money for mo development. Taking the fight directly to Intel, and giving themselves scope for more R&D later, to carry on kicking that llamas ass.

[popcorn_skollie]

Not too impressed with their pricing. For most people the current 3600 and 3300X will make much more sense. I expect the 5600X to sell locally for about R6500. And that will be the cheapest offering for Zen 3 as it stands. Most people will not pay that for a CPU.

 

If you account for inflation the pricing seems much the same compared to last years launch. Well at least if you compare the 3950x to the 5950x. I usually look at the flagships because often its often indicative of the the lower end of the value scale. But at a solid $50 premium over last gen you definitely paying more for Ryzen 5 and 7 this time round. The real question is how much more you're getting. 

 

I think we're in the habit of holding AMD a standard of pricing where we expect greater value with every launch. Its really hard to quantify that right now. I also think that AMD are getting comfy in the pound seats. They can get away with less aggressive pricing until Intel has an answer. And by the looks of things that could take a year. My only fear is supply. I doubt AMD will starve the market to drive prices up but you just don't know. The demand could higher than expected. 

 

The good news is Ryzen 3000 will cost an average of $50 less than 2019s launch off the shelf moving forward. The value for prospective upgraders is really good now. Lisa also promised 400 series chipsets would get bios support for 5000 series chips in January 21. That was unexpected. It certainly holds a candle for existing 400 owners to consider chips upgrades without having to buy a new platform altogether. Offering value by staggering how much cash users need to fork out over a given time. I guess it hinges on partners and what degree of support we talking here. 

 

People with older machines? Just get a 500 series board and 3000 series chip. You're getting superb performance at a very good price and future support to boot. 

 

I really really hope Intel steps up soon. Don't let AMD get too comfortable. Or consumers will eventually end up paying. 

[popcorn_skollie]

Yeah, they're $50 more than their previous gen counterparts. But. That doesn't mean there's not gonna be a normal 5600, or a 5300 etc etc. The 3600 (not 3600x) is a beast, and will likely be the chip of choice going forwards when pairing with a b550 x570 board, because you can still upgrade later. Or the 1600AF, even.

 

An important point, though. AMD have historically competed on a price to performance perspective. That's what got them to the 25% market share. They're now shifting to a quality based offering, instead. To get them mo money for mo development. Taking the fight directly to Intel, and giving themselves scope for more R&D later, to carry on kicking that llamas ass.

 

Yah that's the main difference hey. They kept going. Since the first Ryzen they just kept pushing. If they reach 5nm before Intel's 10nm hits mainstream desktop. Jeez. Intel investors are likely set buildings on fire. What's interesting is the direction they took with improvement and efficiency with Ryzen 5000. I'm dissapointed that they were just shy of the magical 5ghz boost. But boasted some significant ipc and tdp improvements that could make that 4.9 really really good. And mark my words. Overclockers will hit 5ghz stable without breaking a sweat. It makes me wonder. What exactly the slowdown in process nodes is realy indicative of. Whether moore's law really is dead. And wtf is going on at Intel? Why? I mean with those resources. Seriously.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Yah that's the main difference hey. They kept going. Since the first Ryzen they just kept pushing. If they reach 5nm before Intel's 10nm hits mainstream desktop. Jeez. Intel investors are likely set buildings on fire. What's interesting is the direction they took with improvement and efficiency with Ryzen 5000. I'm dissapointed that they were just shy of the magical 5ghz boost. But boasted some significant ipc and tdp improvements that could make that 4.9 really really good. And mark my words. Overclockers will hit 5ghz stable without breaking a sweat. It makes me wonder. What exactly the slowdown in process nodes is realy indicative of. Whether moore's law really is dead. And wtf is going on at Intel? Why? I mean with those resources. Seriously.

Arrogance. I can only ascribe it to that. I mean, heck. That Pre launch press release saying "we're still the best!" was hilarious.

 

And ja. I mean, j was always gonna go AMD with my next rig, but this cements it even more. Just gonna grab an itx 550 mobo, a 3100 / 3300 or whatever, then be set for at least another generation. Heck, even a 450 mobo would be fine.

[WrightJnr]

Anyone following this MSI scalping their own 3080/90 cards?

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Anyone following this MSI scalping their own 3080/90 cards?

Ja. Mega douche move.