Ullrich admits to blood doping... Finally.

[Lucky Luke.]

Is there a link to the full interview?

 

I haven't read the full confession, only that he's not admitting to anything beyond blood doping through Fuentes. Many reckon he's trying to hang on to his Olympic medals from Sydney in 2000.

[SwissVan]

Another confession coming up?

 

Laurent Jalabert names being dredged up by the French newspaper Le Equip

 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/8837284/Jalabert-surprised-at-EPO-failure

 

"Former Vuelta champion Laurent Jalabert expressed surprise at a French newspaper report which said he used the banned drug erythropoietin in 1998.

 

"It's a surprise. Obviously I rode in the 1990s," Jalabert told French radio RTL, a station he is a pundit for. "As I said during my hearing at the Senate, I always trusted my three teams.

 

"I'm taking a blow. I don't know whether there will be other names, if there will be evidence. I cannot challenge this because I don't have evidence," the 1997 time trial world champion added.

"I have not been informed. I wonder how it is that journalists can be aware of that while I am not?"

 

French sports daily L'Equipe said a 1998 Tour de France sample from Jalabert, which was re-tested in 2004, showed traces of the blood-booster EPO.

 

"I cannot say for sure say that I have never taken anything banned," Jalabert told a French Senate investigation committee into doping last month"

[Lucky Luke.]

"it's a surprise", "I have not been informed", "I cannot say for sure" -

 

Sounds like the trusted team doctors gave him roofies along with everything else.

[Patchelicious]

There is no need to be surprised. Look at the finishing times and average speeds of the guys in the 90s and 00s.

Guys pushing 7w/Kg etc etc. We all loved watching Ullrich vs LA, but we should take most of those results with a pinch of salt.

 

I also do not feel sorry for Ullrich, he says he doped because he wanted a level playing field. That means he knew the others doped, he could surely have protested if he had evidence......

 

The 90s and 00s were terrible for the sport and 20 years on it is having a delayed negative effect on the image of cycling. There will always be dopers or cheats, in all sports but its a lot better now, more confessions will come out.

I just hope that the governing bodies and team managers/doctors who were part of it also get punishments handed to them, seems as currently only the athletes are being reprimanded.

[Lucky Luke.]

hard to understand why jalabert doesn't just come out with it, he had his opportunity a few weeks back in front of the french anti-doping commission, and completely blew it - basically perjured himself with this alzheimers type defence. not surprising that l'equipe are now forcing the issue.

 

For a guy who went from being a sprinter, to winning the points, KOM and overall at the Vuelta, to world TT champion, and multiple grand tour KOM jersey winner, all during the dirtiest years of the sport in history, the only shocking information would be that he did not take anything. There's more chance of me pedalling up mount everest whilst holding my breath.

Edited June 25, 2013 by Lucky Luke.

[JGR]

What?

No it doesnt remind me of hansie... he got the severe treatment for basically doing nothing...

 

And where on earth did you get he was throwing games???

 

He gave pitch information away and such stuff... which wasnt correct... but he never threw a game...

 

and the guys that testified against him? Well they came out and said they lied (last year) and that he never asked them to throw a game ot anything... cricket SA coached theit0r testimonies.

 

You can talk *** about anyone... but not about Hansie!!!!

So giving away team information and bribing players to perform badly is acceptable? Thats throwing a game and if you think he told the whole truth you are in denial.

 

Either way my comment was about Hansie cheating and SA still having an excellent win ratio .... that is a fact. Nothing to do with the similarity to this btw

[Agteros]

Doubt it is a myth. More money in sport in the Western nations. We might just not want to admit that our heroes are not 'normal humans'. we need to get over this 'oh no, he/she is such a cheat. A doper! OMG, WTF. Why? Never expected that"

 

Jaimaca had a surge or sprinters beating all records a while ago? REALLY? What was the influence that caused that sudden sprinters surge?

 

Sport = Money. PEDs = better performance = more money....

 

We need to get over it (Our high horses that is!)

There was a doc on the Jamaician sprinters where they looked at the fastest sprinters and their genetics ect. Ultimately they deduced it was more nurture than nature. Their premise was that sprinting is their top sport, from a young ages there are so many running races, school level. It is also very cheap to start as opposed to many other sports. It is a good way for people to raise themselves out of poverty ect. Much like football in Brazil , long distance running in Ethiopa ..... It is also why All Blacks are so good, rugby is a religion there and to a large extend here in South Africa as well. Where there are excellent systems and coaching from a very young age. Take yesterdays game against Samoa - physically they are specimens but lack the technical knowledge ..why do you think there are not many golfers from 3rd world countries? anywho my 2c'

So where are the next wave of Jamaicans now that Bolt is slowing down? There was this sudden 'spike' in performance, and Jamaica was the country to be beat for a while. Fluke? Maybe. Nurture... maybe, but where are the others.

 

There is big money is sporting trophies & records. Better to assume they are all doped to the gills (or within the legal limits/leves), and then NOT be surprised when they are caught out / come clean. Far less emotional outbreaks and defences that way round.

 

Cynical? Maybe, but the course of action with the fewest false hits on it. So maybe not as gullible as assuming athletes don't doubt.

 

I'd rather be cynical but right than gullible

Sure there was doping in cycling, a lot of doping, and sure there is still doping. What bothers me is the world view that any excellence is an indication of illegal performance enhancing programs.

 

Anyone richer than me must be stealing, anyone faster than me must be doping, is a sad mental state to adopt. It is sure to inhibit our own chances of success and excellence and will certainly not make us happy. All it serves to do is console us in our mediocrity.

No... natural selection get them to the top rung in their sports. dope keeps them there

http://www.npr.org/2...-sprint-factory

 

http://napavalleyreg...19bb2963f4.html

 

http://www.spiegel.d...a-846389-2.html

 

You are welcome to believe what you like - I was just mentioning something I saw

Scanned through those. All it does is talking up the phenomena of Bolt & co. Would love to see where the next generation of world beaters are.

 

Good publicity, but that is about all it is.

 

Replace all of those with Armstrong / Cancer / Determination.... same story of human perseverance in the face of adversary and challenge. Good motivational stuff but not a real explanation.

 

I'd love to be wrong, trust me but I just call it as I see it. Sport has been tainted by money and that is a fact. Remove the money and we'll get truer results again, but until then the best sport can be is entertainment - and then the question should be asked: Why have a ban / limitation on PEDs?

Juliet Macur ‏@JulietMacur1h

Track & field is getting battered today. Two throwers and two more sprinters from Jamaica have tested positive. Two are Olympic medalists.

training methods / genetics .... yeah right

May Froome be clean PLEASE!

[Agteros]

"Kingston - Asafa Powell and Sherone Simpson are among five athletes who reportedly tested positive for banned performance-enhancing drugs at last month's Jamaican national championships.

Sources told Reuters earlier on "

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""The substance oxilophrine (methylsynephrine) was found, which is considered by the authorities to be a banned stimulant," the 30-year-old sprinter added."

http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/Athletics/Asafa-Powell-also-fails-dope-test-20130714

[pastapouch]

He was banned for match-fixing. He also, on more than one occassion, asked players to throw matches. He also manipulated the infamous Centurion result against England.

so did Shane warne, Mark Waugh and others...and they still played, but Ali Bacher wanted Hansie out, probably couldn't stand it that an Afrikaans okie from Bloem showed them how it was done. Ali should be hanged for hansie's death.

[T-Bob]

And Stuart O'Grady retires 'surprisingly' the day before the French release the names of the dopers from the '98 tour. He'd just signed a new contract as well.

 

"“I’ve always wanted my career to end with something truly special and this year’s Tour de France has given me that,” - Yup they delayed their findings until after they all rolled into Paris.