Skylark Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 The Teflon Jagwire kits work well, mine are over 2yrs old and still smooth, they also incl the special sealing ferrules for the cable ends. Wonder if putting graphite power into a cable would help anything?
Tankman Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 I learned a valuable lesson this week... and sorted out an issue I guess which should have happened ages ago...NEVER USE NO NAME BRAND SHIFTER INNER OR OUTER CABLES... For months now, I have been battling to get my XT/XTR shifters to work smoothly.I've been struggling when moving down to smaller cogs... it "hangs" and the chain hops between two cogs. The tendancy then, is to start fiddling with the adjuster which just screws everything up, in all directions. I've been using these Kevlar, Teflon "Space Age" "Sooper dooper" cable kits pushed onto me by one of my LBS's and using the lube, also recommended by them. But I think this just helps to clog up the system after a few rides.I thought I was using a high quality system... but sadly it was junk. In desperation after buying new derailleurs, cassette etc I decided to buy the genuine Shimano cable kit (the last thing I hadn't tried) and installed it this week.It has a double sealing system so the moving bit of the cable remains totally covered and so I'm going to try running it with no lube.Anyway my first ride yesterday, and what a difference... up shifts and down.. like butter! And the upshifts hardly need any effort at all. It's made my whole cycling experience 20 times better and well worth R250! ShimCab331we.jpgIf you are using anything 11spd Shimano, you have to use the Polymer coated Shimano cables with that black plasic cable end in your photo, that goes into the frame or deraileurs. That will stop the cable from fraying but not fraying like we are used to on the old cables. It almost looks like fine strands of hair pealing from the cable which makes it sticky. Also, the polymer cable has a head that is fractionally smaller than a normal gear cable. If you use a normal gear cable on an 11spd shifter, it will not go all the way into the shifter hole and shifting wont be optimal. Oh and the polymer coated cables are like R180 ... Per Cable!!
Guest DieBees Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 I disagree somewhat with the guys saying u dont lube cables. I have always lubed my cables with either Q20 or WD40. I have never had issues. When I get to a point that I feel I need to replace cables I spray them and they are good again. I have had my current set of cables for about 8years now. No issues!
BaGearA Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 the ony thing you can put on cables is purple extream<work like a BOMB(just don't put a ton of the stuff on
Falco Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 The only lube to use on cables is no lube. When they get sticky,and shifting or brake feel deteriorates, bin them. They are designed to be disposable, with a limited service life. I'd rather spend a bit of cash on new cables than have to put up with crappy shifting.
Guest notmyname Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 I used a small drill to drill out the cable holders on the frame and run full outers from the shifters, best upgrade you can do and no more dirty clogged shifter cables.I want to do this but I'm a bit bang to cock it up. It can end badly.
jagwil Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 The only lube to use on cables is no lube. When they get sticky,and shifting or brake feel deteriorates, bin them. They are designed to be disposable, with a limited service life. I'd rather spend a bit of cash on new cables than have to put up with crappy shifting. As the man says. Just replace them regularly.
Tumbleweed Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 I want to do this but I'm a bit bang to cock it up. It can end badly.And void your warranty on the bike...
Wyatt Earp Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 And void your warranty on the bike...Ag come on now TW.You know how it works, you sommer gooi a plan and then take the manufacturer to court when they turn down your warranty .
Wyatt Earp Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 As for lubing shifter cables....... what is this world coming to ?
Tumbleweed Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 Ag come on now TW.You know how it works, you sommer gooi a plan and then take the manufacturer to court when they turn down your warranty .Oops, sorry. *Chastises self and heads off to Amazon to download the Kindle version of "All you need to know about drilling frames and how to gooi the Consumer Protection Act at agents...*
canfan Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 I want to do this but I'm a bit bang to cock it up. It can end badly.Like you said. It can end really badly. I wouldn't do it.
Wyatt Earp Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 Oops, sorry. *Chastises self and heads off to Amazon to download the Kindle version of "All you need to know about drilling frames and how to gooi the Consumer Protection Act at agents...*Author ?Must be the David Koresh of bicycle maintenance folklore .
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 I disagree somewhat with the guys saying u dont lube cables. I have always lubed my cables with either Q20 or WD40. I have never had issues. When I get to a point that I feel I need to replace cables I spray them and they are good again. I have had my current set of cables for about 8years now. No issues!Wd40 and q20 aren't lubes....
JXV Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 Wd40 and q20 aren't lubes....And they both dry out leaving gunge behind so you have to keep on spraying more to unstick the system......which, paradoxically, is what convinces you that it works so well ☺
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