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So I got the question this weekend about why is Chocolate milk considered a good post ride drink, I pointed out that it has fair amount of protein and calcium. Are there other reasons?

It tastes better than most recovery drinks, and if you have kids you always have it in the cupboard...

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I agree on a lot of aspects as you,

but cheap supplements in general (not all) are just cheap ingredients.

 

Its like comparing chuck to fillet.

 

Supplements have their place and I will take quality over value any day when it affects my body.

Cheaper products generally taste worse as well and yes I have tried most products out there.

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Milk protein is one of the most difficult to digest, so this isn't a great option

So I'm wondering if its one of those "Lets promote Chocolate milk as a recovery drink so we can sell more"

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I agree on a lot of aspects as you,

but cheap supplements in general (not all) are just cheap ingredients.

 

Its like comparing chuck to fillet.

 

Supplements have their place and I will take quality over value any day when it affects my body.

Cheaper products generally taste worse as well and yes I have tried most products out there.

 

And if most of the ingeredients are synthetic and created in a lab, even though it's "good" ingredients?

 

We've recently seen the first complete lab grown "hamburger" :drool:

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So I got the question this weekend about why is Chocolate milk considered a good post ride drink, I pointed out that it has fair amount of protein and calcium. Are there other reasons?

Yip !!!! it tastes lekker !

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Well does the chocolate milk hard to digest really matter? Its after the race so what if it takes 10minutes longer to digest? Obviously its different when actually racing.

 

You also need too consider that should you have eaten breakfast (and are well rested), you should be able to run 2 hours (cycle 2 - 3 hours) without any nutrition and still be OK.

 

However should you run/cycle for longer than that then its NB to eat during the first 90 minutes. That's why all the TDF riders dump their bottles in the last 20km as it is too late to make a difference. Also that's why I found Froome's gel eating craving in the last 2km of a mountain stage quite funny as it probably didn't make a difference except if he was handed pure glucose.

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Also that's why I found Froome's gel eating craving in the last 2km of a mountain stage quite funny as it probably didn't make a difference except if he was handed pure glucose.

 

So did I. At the time I thought it must be some high quality type of goo product. Then I also thought to myself I know I get a mental and physical boost every time I take a goo, whether it is just a mental thing or actual boost I don't know, so maybe it was that as well.

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There are a few ways to look at any product:

 

1. Where is this going to get me in the next few minutes - immediate effect

2. Where is this going to get me in the next few years - prolonged effect.

 

If you dump a cup of Jet-A1 in to your car`s tank - the immediate effect might be great - long term, not so much.

 

Know what is in your drink and why. Through education you can that the `guess work` out of your nutrition and better asses your needs.

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I don't use anything from a tub or infused supplements. In fact the word 'nutrition' gets my back up.

 

Real food, water and occasionally some diluted game for the taste. A hearty breakfast and constant topping up is perfect.

 

I carry super C or fizzers for an emergency sugar bomb that tastes good.

 

It just seems to me that too many people over complicate things with this stuff. Concentrate on training properly, teaching your body to recover naturally, burn fat by eating correctly with self control and exercise. Don't drink so much booze....

 

These products get thrown around as free miles or a miracle cure for fatigue and eventually become a substitute for good old hard work.

 

I do some very long races, AR expeditions (often on my rigid SS) and do not for any purpose use any of it...

 

But like I said in another thread, each to their own. Try it out and whatever works for you works for you....

 

Consumerism rocks

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I realised on Saturday why nutrition on a longer ride is important.

 

I only took water (wasn't planning a long hard ride). First 2 hours I felt good, after that my body shut down. I even struggled to ride downhill as I felt exhausted.

Previous weekend, did the same length ride, but instead of water I had 32GI (endurance one) and I finished the ride strong.

 

I think for some people its more important than others. Me personally I know I need food on long rides. Gels don't work and I find real food like banana loaf, peanut butter sarmies etc works better than the expensive energy bars.

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Definitely Ratty

 

You can get away with 2 hours maybe even three if you had a good breakfast and some powerade just before the start.

 

The longer the race the more it changes.

 

I had a good IM race this year mainly due to eating 2 x steer burgers after 120km on the bike - or so I think!

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Milk protein is one of the most difficult to digest, so this isn't a great option

 

but it tastes like a dream after a long ride, and i don't know why, but i always feel better after having one..

 

it is also a good sub if you are craving a late night aero or top deck.

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