DJR Posted October 23, 2013 Share OK let me add names. If you want a better seeding for the Argus, you have to do the burger in dubble the time of the winner or better. Would you care to do a guestimate of what time you need to do in the Burger to get what seeding for the Argus? Give people an idea of what to aim for. I know it will be somewhat of a thumbsuck, but it could be interesting to see later how close the prediction turns out to the actual seeding. A=2hrs15min, F=3hrs00min, R=4hrs00min etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerr Posted October 23, 2013 Share Would you care to do a guestimate of what time you need to do in the Burger to get what seeding for the Argus? Give people an idea of what to aim for. I know it will be somewhat of a thumbsuck, but it could be interesting to see later how close the prediction turns out to the actual seeding. A=2hrs15min, F=3hrs00min, R=4hrs00min etc? Argus seeding has always been a bit of a mystery to me. I did Burger in 2:56 last year, and was seeded P I think (1st group behind Nedbank group). A lot of guys went fast last year on Burger though due to the perfect conditions, and I'm also not sure if that ride was used as my main seeding result. Burger has quite a low Beta I think. Edit - correction was in Q Edited October 23, 2013 by walkerr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaBee Posted October 23, 2013 Share It will be easier to guess all number and power ball for the lotto, JGR... Seeding is a dark art - what goes on in those chambers, nobody will know. Esp Argus seeding, because it is affected by different races under different conditions. Plus the route for Burger has changed, so even knowing exactly what one got for which time last year, is no longer valid. FWIW I think my Burger was about 2:40 or just below last year for G seeding. The year before I rode 2:51 - also for a G seeding. Edited October 23, 2013 by SeaBee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyOnBike Posted October 23, 2013 Share My bad. I would suggest doing a shorter distance on one of the local PPA races to give you a gentler introduction & an idea what to expect in Dec. Would also give you a better seeding for the Burger which always helps! Ah ok, thanks. I'll have a look around to see what's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT-GTR Posted October 23, 2013 Share last year this was a 92km ride. it's now a 97km. where has the route changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted October 23, 2013 Share last year this was a 92km ride. it's now a 97km. where has the route changed? Old route is restored with completed roadworks in the Paarl region past Drakenstein Prison.R TURN at bottom of Pniel T junction instead of L towards Simondium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mon-goose Posted October 23, 2013 Share in 2007 I did a 2h48 burger and was given a c seeding for the argus in 2008. The burger was my only qualifying ride at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC007 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Old route is restored with completed roadworks in the Paarl region past Drakenstein Prison.R TURN at bottom of Pniel T junction instead of L towards Simondium. Think this is the old route. Edited October 23, 2013 by DMC007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted October 23, 2013 Share Think this is the old route. Yebo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC007 Posted October 23, 2013 Share There were many SUB3's last year...but dont think thats gonna happen in 5 weeks time even if we get good weather. Edited October 23, 2013 by DMC007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servetus Posted October 23, 2013 Share last year this was a 92km ride. it's now a 97km. where has the route changed?There's also a minor change between Paarl and Wellington, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted October 23, 2013 Share IMHO, it is actually easier this way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaBee Posted October 24, 2013 Share There's also a minor change between Paarl and Wellington, it seems. Correct - as I read it, we turn off before the long descend past Nederburg onto the Swaelstertpad and link up to the Wellington road from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 24, 2013 Share Last year got a 2:29, with a puncture, so think there still a large portion of sub 3 this year, even if we have a south Easter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayamo Posted October 24, 2013 Share R265 for a race without road closure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerr Posted October 24, 2013 Share R265 for a race without road closure? PPA gotta pay for those nice offices, cars and lawyers somehow .... BabyAndy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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