So the hype is big on the 1 x whatever drive train bandwagon.......

[Hairy]

So the hype is big on the 1 x whatever drive train bandwagon.......

 

I have been running a 1 x 9 for a little while and it has it's pro's and con's, the more dedicated drive trains with a narrow wide ring, clutch der and cassette with moerse big cogs certainly does have an appeal and makes sense ..............but ...........

 

A chain ring does not last long, more so on a 1 x set up as you are only using the single ring vs sharing the wear on a dual or triple chainring crankset.

 

 

Narrow wide chainrings are also not exactly a cheap purchase.

 

So then, why not get a S/steel SS specific chainring for around the R350 mark and run the 1 x set up with the biggest moerse gear range cassette that works for you and then use a chain guide with a clutch der?

 

Just thinking from an economics stand point here.

 

Edit: Font size amended

Edited April 15, 2014 by Hairy

[nathrix]

1 x whatever is the best since sliced bread

[Tractor]

1x9 is probably the route I'm going with the planned Inbred mtb build

[Hairy]

1x9 is probably the route I'm going with the planned Inbred mtb build

Got my grubby paws on a 12-36t cassette and this will help winch the MOTTO up the steep long climbs vs the 11-34t I have been running.

[MoreTrails]

Been running S/Steel 1x rings on my bikes for 3+ years....still works. That's saying: the same s/steel rings (1x each bike) for the last 3+ years and they are still going strong.

They are probably about to be mated with their 3rd drive chain each.

 

Clutch deraileurs and a top guide is all that's needed

[Hairy]

Been running S/Steel 1x rings on my bikes for 3+ years....still works. That's saying: the same s/steel rings (1x each bike) for the last 3+ years and they are still going strong.

They are probably about to be mated with their 3rd drive chain each.

 

Clutch deraileurs and a top guide is all that's needed

Awesome thanks ... that is the hands on user feedback I am looking for.

[rouxtjie]

Been running S/Steel 1x rings on my bikes for 3+ years....still works. That's saying: the same s/steel rings (1x each bike) for the last 3+ years and they are still going strong.

They are probably about to be mated with their 3rd drive chain each.

 

Clutch deraileurs and a top guide is all that's needed

Not even....jcmeyer built a 1x10 with zee groupo...without top guide or narrow wide ring and hasn't dropped a chain. works a charm

[MoreTrails]

Clutch deraileur feedback - aim at higher end spectrum RD's from Shimano if budget allows....the more affordable ones have cam systems that wear quickly...even XT's have been know to give up quickly.

The Zee seems to hold up well though, and obviously Saint and XTR are what we would all want to ride if financially possible (and Shimano users)

 

The SRAM roller clutch system seems to wear better, but also come at a price. That being said the lower range clutches seem to hold out better than the Shimano lower end ones...

 

Last but not least - 9spd SRAM shifter to 10spd Shimano clutch is so close to a direct match it is silly. I have X0 9spd shifter to Zee RD on a 11-34 9spd casette and it works like a charm....no adapters / spacers / nonsense

[MoreTrails]

Not even....jcmeyer built a 1x10 with zee groupo...without top guide or narrow wide ring and hasn't dropped a chain. works a charm

 

Shot - good to know. Still have to throw cash at the NW ring though....which I think Hairy is trying not to do? Hairy... is that about right?

 

Also, I suppose it depends what type of riding you are doing...

Edited April 15, 2014 by MoreTrails

[rouxtjie]

Shot - good to know. Still have to throw cash at the NW ring though....which I think Hairy is trying not to do? Hairy... is that about right?

 

Also, I suppose it depends what type of riding you are doing...

yea true, but then again....the man is hard on his equipment....and its alu frame with rigid fork and he will put most okes to shame on gnarly trails with suspension....so if he can't dropped a chain I am sure 99% of people won't be able to.

[Hairy]

Clutch deraileur feedback - aim at higher end spectrum RD's from Shimano if budget allows....the more affordable ones have cam systems that wear quickly...even XT's have been know to give up quickly.

The Zee seems to hold up well though, and obviously Saint and XTR are what we would all want to ride if financially possible (and Shimano users)

 

The SRAM roller clutch system seems to wear better, but also come at a price. That being said the lower range clutches seem to hold out better than the Shimano lower end ones...

 

Last but not least - 9spd SRAM shifter to 10spd Shimano clutch is so close to a direct match it is silly. I have X0 9spd shifter to Zee RD on a 11-34 9spd casette and it works like a charm....no adapters / spacers / nonsense

Shot - good to know. Still have to throw cash at the NW ring though....which I think Hairy is trying not to do? Hairy... is that about right?

 

Also, I suppose it depends what type of riding you are doing...

Got that right Moretrails

 

I have an X0 9spd shifter, so half way there then ... just need the ZEE at some stage and another S/Steel On One SS Chainring would be the ticket.

[Skylark]

Apparently you can also turn/flip over single chainrings around when they are worn and use them with the reverse unworn drive face, I tried and it works like a charm, 2x the life out of a chainring.

Edited April 15, 2014 by Skylark

[rouxtjie]

Apparently you can also turn/flip over single chainrings around when they are worn and use them with the reverse unworn drive face, I tried it ain't works like a charm, 2x the life out of a chainring.

But wait there is more....with a SS the ring also develops worn spots and non worn spots in the pedal stroke...so every 3-4 months I rotate the blade one "click" forward where a "click" is a bolt holding it to the arm. You get even more life out of it then

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

Awesome thread Hairy and a place wher I can raise another question.

The 42T chainring that cost R1000 to buy, why can we not take a 36T off of a cassette have it drawn in Cad to a 40 or 42T and lazer cut the bugger.

Could probably get 10 for R1000, yes you will need to sit and file the teeth a bit but it could also be made in S/s or Alloy?

Anybody else thought of this or done it?

[Kranky]

I ran a simple 1x9 with a single speed Fouriers Turbulence 32T chainring (no ramps and pins), X5 derailleur and 9 speed chain for about 6-8 months without any problems and full confidence in the drivetrain.

 

I only had chain drop on 2 or 3 occasions during this time but only when peddling backwards when stationery to get going again. I didn't think this was enough to justify using a chain guide.

 

The wear on the chainring was not unreasonable. I've continued to use the chainring on my current set up.

 

I am led to believe that this set up will not work as well with a 10 speed chain, as it is thinner than a 9 speed chain. But I'm sure you could get it to work

Edited April 15, 2014 by Nick.

[Kranky]

Apparently you can also turn/flip over single chainrings around when they are worn and use them with the reverse unworn drive face, I tried it ain't works like a charm, 2x the life out of a chainring.

 

But wait there is more....with a SS the ring also develops worn spots and non worn spots in the pedal stroke...so every 3-4 months I rotate the blade one "click" forward where a "click" is a bolt holding it to the arm. You get even more life out of it then

 

Thanks for this guys. Definitely going to start rotating and later the flip.