David Marshall Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 I've never ridden any of these in anger. I have worked on a lot. My customers are most satisfied with Shimano XT, XTR and SLX - in fact any Shimano! Don't see many DH bikes so can't comment on those. Any of the older Avids
Paul Ruinaard Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 There is essentially no difference between Shimano SLX and XT M785. So if you go Shimano, save some cash and get the SLX's.
ChUkKy Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 There is essentially no difference between Shimano SLX and XT M785. So if you go Shimano, save some cash and get the SLX's. The difference is a few grams that you can press out extra when youre doing the toilet run before you ride.Oh, and a shiny silver reservoir on the XT as opposed to a matte silver on the SLX. I have both and they feel identical, fantastic brakes all round
trail - er - park Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Avid Code R .... power, modulation, adjustability, quiet, reasonably priced, zero maintenance .... ticks all of the boxes for me.
TheV Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 "preference in brakes" make for a wonderful social experiment, probably even more than choice of frame or bicycle brand... because if we all have to be totally honest with ourself, and with each other ... then we have to arrive at the conclusion that you simply won't get a better hydraulic braking system than Shimano currently has on the market.... especially if you take all things into consideration.... brute braking power (SLX/XT/XTR) with ice-tech rotors, tick shimano, overall system weight, tick shimano, value for money/price point, tick shimano, modulation, control and feedback, tick shimano, ergonomics and design, materials, looks, feel, etc, tick shimano, service ability, parts and setup/maintenance requirements, tick shimano, finally reliability and stability of overall system... you just don't have any issues with the mineral oil, mud, dirt, grime, heat, blah blah blah... SHIMANO... you might call me out as a fanboy... but let's be honest on all these points... you are not going to beat shimano, not anywhere from Deore up to XRT.... just accept it.
Capricorn Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 LOL V. at best, you are a bit funny there with that oversold generalisation
the nerd Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 LOL V. at best, you are a bit funny there with that oversold generalisation The only thing shimano has going for it is the performance vs price point thing. They ARE good brakes, the best, I dunno...
porqui Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 And then when you want to service Shimanoes -- oops ! Sorry I meant replace.
TheV Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 And then when you want to service Shimanoes -- oops ! Sorry I meant replace."Servicing" Shimano brakes... what does that even mean? if you are talking about bleeding the system.... have you ever worked with DOT fluid? it's corrosive, it's hygroscopic and it has a crap shelf life (it deteriorates).....at best you can expect to have sluggish and/or spongy brakes on the trail... Please be more specific?
Brian Fantana Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 The only thing shimano has going for it is the performance vs price point thing. They ARE good brakes, the best, I dunno...They might not be the best, but they are good enough for the best. The current XCO and DH world champions use shimano brakes, and GM does as well:
the nerd Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 They might not be the best, but they are good enough for the best. The current XCO and DH world champions use shimano brakes, and GM does as well: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1422776257.594371.jpg Yeah I would use whatever brakes were given to me for free as well.. even Avids...
TheV Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 this is a post in the tech Q&A section? most responses here are a joke... please can someone tell me in technical terms, and in real benefits vs. disadvantages, etc... why you would advise someone to buy anything else than shimano mtb brakes? real hardcore facts... and "i like avids or hopes" don't count... tell me WHY please?
the nerd Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 this is a post in the tech Q&A section? most responses here are a joke... please can someone tell me in technical terms, and in real benefits vs. disadvantages, etc... why you would advise someone to buy anything else than shimano mtb brakes? real hardcore facts... and "i like avids or hopes" don't count... tell me WHY please?Well for one in 1 year I've had to bleed my shimanos twice and in 3 years my brother has not touched his hopes. Now when bleeding my shimanos they don't go back to feeling solid and it looks like the seals are starting to go internally. Now if these were hopes I'd be able to buy a seal kit but alas I cannot service the shimanos. Nothing against them like I said they are good brakes, but if you going to spend money spend it once.
the nerd Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 I also have the older type on my trance and those have held out longer than the new style ones. The new ones were awesome when they were new tho!!
Grebel Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 I have had Shimano SLX in the past and not had any problems. Currently running Avid Juicy 5's on my DH bike without so much as a days shyte from them and I am on the brakes a LOT (they squeal a bit but my full face muffles that nicely) My trail bike is running Hayes Stroker Trails and they do the job just fine. "Modulation" on all of them is great. How did I manage to acheive this amazing feat? I've learnt to adjust my grip....
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Ito shimano, there's nothing that can touch deore at the moment. Just stupid cheap and apparently reliable as hell. slx level, you can get the guide r. The guide is a dual pot brake, and is far more powerful than the slx stuff. Has the same adjustability and is easily swappable between sides without having to do a full rebleed. Xt/zee level you get the guide rs. Again I'd go guide due to the easy swappability and better access to parts (serviceability vs throw away) Saint and xtr - I'd rather get hopes. Far better bit of kit Than the shimano stuff. In between the xt and xtr are the guide rsc which offer fantastic value at the moment. In all my experiences with avid /sram they've only been fantastic. When theyve needed a bleed, then they've been bled. Only now my old codes are needing a replacement but they're 6 years or so old now and the master cylinder is stuffed. So its guides for me.
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