Mousea Posted September 3, 2014 Share Only do races that you normaly cant get access to. Otherwise go out with your friends and ride ST at your own pace when ever you want. And your pace will be quicker than riding the same track at a race day.Cheaper and far more FUN bullet77 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naas Vermaak Posted September 3, 2014 Share Perhaps aggressiveness like this is understandable in the leading group, racing for the podium, but totally out of place further down the field. I trust that you are not condoning causing a fellow rider to crash and possibly seriously injured. I agree with you re your take on aggressiveness. The reality though is that it happens all the time in races and most often being heightened/caused by slower or in-the-way-riders. I am also not condoning the causing of crashes neither am I condoning obstructive riding styles....let's move on...I want practical solutions plse. Mousea 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted September 3, 2014 Share The Monster comes to mindGreat example and just to echo what blondie says....the 70 and 45km merge close to the end...somewhere after the cell tower. Now there is still some singletrack in the mix, shouting and screaming at people in the 45km makes them nervous and unpredictable. Riding right on their wheel does exactly the same. Best result is to just sit patiently until its safe to pass for you and other person. They know you are there, I almost always get..."I will move over just now" or "do you want to pass". Now the thing with passing is that its up to you, the more experienced rider to take the lead and make it safe...I got stuck behind someone on the concrete slab bridge thing(close to the end) at the monster. There is no way you can pass someone even if they ask..."do you want to pass". Just told the person to not stress, I am in no hurry...and that they have right of way. Instantly they are relaxed and get on with riding instead of swerving all over the show. Then when it was safe, I told the person I am passing on his left...he doesnt have to move cause now there were space. Everyone wins. bullet77, HOEKVLAG and blondeonabike 3 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naas Vermaak Posted September 3, 2014 Share wow just wow And you as a race organizer condone maybe even share in this behavior.....noted. Let me also ask this to the singletrack heros....why was it ok for you to sit on the talentless dirt roadie's wheel before going into the singletrack? Not so - out of context remark - how abt a solution? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Knoetze (sk27) Posted September 3, 2014 Share The other solution is to ride the Knysna MTB race, 50km and not a single meter of singletrack.Problem solved. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted September 3, 2014 Share I agree with you re your take on aggressiveness. The reality though is that it happens all the time in races and most often being heightened/caused by slower or in-the-way-riders. I am also not condoning the causing of crashes neither am I condoning obstructive riding styles....let's move on...I want practical solutions plse.Easy Limit entries to what the trail can handle...dont over subscribe.(less money for the organizer but happier riders)Dont merge different distances at the end...bad ideaMake the bulk of the climbing in the first half of the race...see mankele races for referenceMark mark mark...and then mark again. The more, the better. Naas Vermaak 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Knoetze (sk27) Posted September 3, 2014 Share Great example and just to echo what blondie says....the 70 and 45km merge close to the end...somewhere after the cell tower. Now there is still some singletrack in the mix, shouting and screaming at people in the 45km makes them nervous and unpredictable. Riding right on their wheel does exactly the same. Best result is to just sit patiently until its safe to pass for you and other person. They know you are there, I almost always get..."I will move over just now" or "do you want to pass". Now the thing with passing is that its up to you, the more experienced rider to take the lead and make it safe...I got stuck behind someone on the concrete slab bridge thing(close to the end) at the monster. There is no way you can pass someone even if they ask..."do you want to pass". Just told the person to not stress, I am in no hurry...and that they have right of way. Instantly they are relaxed and get on with riding instead of swerving all over the show. Then when it was safe, I told the person I am passing on his left...he doesnt have to move cause now there were space. Everyone wins. I don't believe you!!! Thats makes way to much sense to be true.......... rouxtjie 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted September 3, 2014 Share Not so - out of context remark - how abt a solution?just posted the golden four...however the first one you might not like since it means less money for you. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratty Posted September 3, 2014 Share It's easier when you have breasts though............Not true! A lot of guys won't move over for a chick, especially on a downhill. I mean imagine what their friends will save if a girl beat them downhill.......... blondeonabike 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted September 3, 2014 Share I don't believe you!!! Thats makes way to much sense to be true..........How hard can it be...and I still managed to get my target time, had a good time on the trails and wasnt a dwis in the process. Steven Knoetze (sk27) 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Knoetze (sk27) Posted September 3, 2014 Share How hard can it be...and I still managed to get my target time, had a good time on the trails and wasnt a dwis in the process. I forgot the sarcasm font again, dammit!!! rouxtjie 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naas Vermaak Posted September 3, 2014 Share just posted the golden four...however the first one you might not like since it means less money for you. OK...are you coming down for the race or not? We have an OKTOBERFEST with oompah band and appropriately dressed waiters on the Saturday night...so the ST will be NO PROBLEM for you on the sunday morning...you'll see plenty of trails Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicanZA Posted September 3, 2014 Share lots of heroes out there, some guys just being jelly...cry me a river stuff here, "I cant climb but i ride single track like Madonna panties." heard it all before.... easy fix, dont do the popular races. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChUkKy Posted September 3, 2014 Share I seem to have been pretty lucky in the races Ive done, when Ive shouted STRAVAAAAA!! from the back people tend to make space for me to come past... they clearly know a KOM is first prize.Its like a parting of the ocean. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, VicanZA and rouxtjie 3 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted September 3, 2014 Share I forgot the sarcasm font again, dammit!!!hehehehe I gots it though... It is a pity ben melt swanepoel isnt a hubber....I got passed by him in my very first race, I was moer nervous, but he was so chilled...and he is racing for podium spots here. Told me to relax...I have right of way. He will pass me when he can, I must just enjoy myself... That is how its done. Edited September 3, 2014 by rouxtjie Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted September 3, 2014 Share OK...are you coming down for the race or not? We have an OKTOBERFEST with oompah band and appropriately dressed waiters on the Saturday night...so the ST will be NO PROBLEM for you on the sunday morning...you'll see plenty of trails Is it in the race diary...will check it out. To be honest, I like unknown races more than the big sponsered ones...I might just ChUkKy 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/142738-who-has-the-right-of-way/page/12/#findComment-2411443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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