Pure Savage Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 They should just allow early enteies to those people with the most KOM's on Strava. Or the most km on strava. That easy rated the actual cyclists and not the one hit wonders once a year. Would help get fun rides larger and possible more road closures.
PJP2013 Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I hear what u saying, but personally I see it as supply and demand I have done a few Argus I booked the plane ticket I got the hotel room, slipped on the entry do I now loose ticket and room for a couple hundred bucks???Anyone got 2 argus entries....???? PM me Rather go the charity route then, at least the extra money will be used fro some good.
Tubehunter Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Far easier would be to make contact with the buyer. Get some details and then fire these off to the Cycle Tour Trust. Ask them if you can pay the substitution fee and lay claim on said tickets in lieu of helping them get rid of a ticket tout who would forfeit those and be put under indefinite suspension. You pay stated fee and tout loses any financial contribution made. Anyone selling their entry for a profit would be considered a tout. Could be a win win situation!
V12man Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Much like my pet peeve of ticket scalpels buying up golden circle tickets and selling them for up to 3x face value. As far as I know this is NOT illegal but simply against the T&cs of the ticket issuer - as long as the market exists it will continueDipslick's ticket scalper gives them to him at cost.....not the greatest businessman that one....
rouxtjie Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Dipslick's ticket scalper gives them to him at cost.....not the greatest businessman that one.... But we love him...
Uni Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Dipslick's ticket scalper gives them to him at cost.....not the greatest businessman that one.... does he have a ticket scalper or is HE the ticket scalper? *confused*
V12man Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 does he have a ticket scalper or is HE the ticket scalper? *confused*You don't think Dips bought his One Direction tickets from computicket do you...... of course he has a scalper....
Uni Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 You don't think Dips bought his One Direction tickets from computicket do you...... of course he has a scalper....oh ja. How the other half live he still owes me cake though . edit - thought maybe he went that route because he was embarassed it was 1D
VicanZA Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 this is such a cry me a river thread, do it, dont do it! i dont give a rats ass....some guys have the ammo and are willing to pay those over the top prices, good on them, some races have a waiting list as long as my arm! no different to scalping tickets.
Grogs Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I am stunned at how many people there are who think its okay to sell an entry to a cycle race at a profit. Sure - supply and demand and all that; but there is such a thing as morality. It's this mentality that caused the financial crisis in 2008 - a perfect example of morality being ignored in the application of the laws of supply and demand. All those pensioners now all of a sudden not having any pension because of the laws of supply and demand (despite having saved their whole lives). What those investment banks did wasn't necessarily illegal - but it was immoral. There's a huge demand for rhino horn (and consequently an inflated price for it), does that mean its just fine and dandy to sell it? I had an epic entry a few years back (from the lucky draw). I was a bit short of cash to actually do the race (equipment, time away from my business, entry fee, etc) so gave the entry back. I didn't try and sell it (it didn't even enter my mind as a possibility). People laughed at me for doing that. I suppose those same people would be the ones who say its OK to sell rhino horn or to effectively rob pension funds of their money. Aside from the morality issue, there is in fact an element of illegality: the terms and conditions under which almost all entries to races are purchased stipulate that you would be in violation of the contract if you sold the entry at a profit (I know that this applies to the Epic and to the CTCT). It's fraud, and its corrupt. Think about that next time you think you have the right to complain about Nkandla or the Arms Deal - you are exactly the same as our dear friends in Government, only on a smaller scale. Lastly, are you people not able to make money in the real world? Are you that pathetically useless that you have to tout entries to cycle races to make money? I dare you to try and sell me a ticket to any event at a profit.
Scott2luvit Posted October 7, 2014 Author Posted October 7, 2014 I am stunned at how many people there are who think its okay to sell an entry to a cycle race at a profit. Sure - supply and demand and all that; but there is such a thing as morality. It's this mentality that caused the financial crisis in 2008 - a perfect example of morality being ignored in the application of the laws of supply and demand. All those pensioners now all of a sudden not having any pension because of the laws of supply and demand (despite having saved their whole lives). What those investment banks did wasn't necessarily illegal - but it was immoral. There's a huge demand for rhino horn (and consequently an inflated price for it), does that mean its just fine and dandy to sell it? I had an epic entry a few years back (from the lucky draw). I was a bit short of cash to actually do the race (equipment, time away from my business, entry fee, etc) so gave the entry back. I didn't try and sell it (it didn't even enter my mind as a possibility). People laughed at me for doing that. I suppose those same people would be the ones who say its OK to sell rhino horn or to effectively rob pension funds of their money. Aside from the morality issue, there is in fact an element of illegality: the terms and conditions under which almost all entries to races are purchased stipulate that you would be in violation of the contract if you sold the entry at a profit (I know that this applies to the Epic and to the CTCT). It's fraud, and its corrupt. Think about that next time you think you have the right to complain about Nkandla or the Arms Deal - you are exactly the same as our dear friends in Government, only on a smaller scale. Lastly, are you people not able to make money in the real world? Are you that pathetically useless that you have to tout entries to cycle races to make money? I dare you to try and sell me a ticket to any event at a profit.
Rydogg Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I dare you to try and sell me a ticket to any event at a profit.You can have mine for R1000...
GLuvsMtb Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 If you are dof enough to pay close to R1000 an entry then you deserve what is coming to you. 2 or 3 weeks before the event when people realise they have not trained and that driving down from Nelspruit the day before may not be such a clever idea, is when you swoop in and take their tickets at 50% of what they paid for it... and then donate the balance of the ticket price to a charity.
Tubehunter Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 If you are dof enough to pay close to R1000 an entry then you deserve what is coming to you. 2 or 3 weeks before the event when people realise they have not trained and that driving down from Nelspruit the day before may not be such a clever idea, is when you swoop in and take their tickets at 50% of what they paid for it... and then donate the balance of the ticket price to a charity. Substitution process closes a month before the event I think. You'll have to make sure it's in time to get that done too!
rouxtjie Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I am stunned at how many people there are who think its okay to sell an entry to a cycle race at a profit. Sure - supply and demand and all that; but there is such a thing as morality. It's this mentality that caused the financial crisis in 2008 - a perfect example of morality being ignored in the application of the laws of supply and demand. All those pensioners now all of a sudden not having any pension because of the laws of supply and demand (despite having saved their whole lives). What those investment banks did wasn't necessarily illegal - but it was immoral. There's a huge demand for rhino horn (and consequently an inflated price for it), does that mean its just fine and dandy to sell it? I had an epic entry a few years back (from the lucky draw). I was a bit short of cash to actually do the race (equipment, time away from my business, entry fee, etc) so gave the entry back. I didn't try and sell it (it didn't even enter my mind as a possibility). People laughed at me for doing that. I suppose those same people would be the ones who say its OK to sell rhino horn or to effectively rob pension funds of their money. Aside from the morality issue, there is in fact an element of illegality: the terms and conditions under which almost all entries to races are purchased stipulate that you would be in violation of the contract if you sold the entry at a profit (I know that this applies to the Epic and to the CTCT). It's fraud, and its corrupt. Think about that next time you think you have the right to complain about Nkandla or the Arms Deal - you are exactly the same as our dear friends in Government, only on a smaller scale. Lastly, are you people not able to make money in the real world? Are you that pathetically useless that you have to tout entries to cycle races to make money? I dare you to try and sell me a ticket to any event at a profit.I am stunned how much this matters to you, liewe aarde man. I have a munga entry, 200k and its yours?
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