GaryvdM Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 So we need Jacques,Louis and Daniel to ride as high up as possible in the mountain stages and EBH,Serge,Stephan and Rynardt to ride high up on the other stages.It is still a possibility because Movistar is focused on GC so they will not waste energy trying to get riders well placed on each stage. It's still going to be hard, because Movistar has 2 GC riders (Quintana and Valverde) who are not likely to lose time, so MTN have to hope that the Movistar 3rd rider loses big time each day.
Cav' Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 As for todays stage: I see a big break forming, including some big names. Bardet is a favourite as they finish in his home town.
DJ84 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 The fight for podium is gonna be intense TVG would wanna really hang onMovistar would wanna get Nairo into yellow and maybe Valverde on the podium as wellFroome Dawg just need to stay on his bike and avoid one bad day in the saddle to take the maillot jaune home as he is looking rock solid.Maybe Berto can surge too and influence the podiumIt is also possible that G can get close.So many permutationsGeneral classification after stage 16 1 Christopher Froome (GBr) Team Sky 64:47:162 Nairo Quintana (Col) Movistar Team 0:03:103 Tejay Van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team 0:03:324 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Movistar Team 0:04:025 Alberto Contador (Spa) Tinkoff-Saxo 0:04:236 Geraint Thomas (GBr) Team Sky 0:05:327 Robert Gesink (Ned) Team LottoNL-Jumbo 0:06:238 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Astana Pro Team 0:07:499 Bauke Mollema (Ned) Trek Factory Racing 0:08:5310 Warren Barguil (Fra) Team Giant-Alpecin 0:11:03I would have a guess and say that Contador and Valverde will catch Tejay with Contador taking the final podium spot. Froome just has to manage his lead but will be tough with at least 3 riders attacking him all the way. It sure is going to be interesting as Berto will lay it all on the line i think. I also think Nibles will have one huge attack to see if he can put himself back in with a chance, but that depends on how good the blood bag was yesterday.
'Dale Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 The Route: déjà vu? If you saw the Dauphiné in June this is identical. It’s 161km, a saw-tooth profile with the 2,250m Col d’Allos before a ski-station summit finish. Sure it’s a mountain stage but the early climbs are steady and there’s “only” 3,700 vertical metres, it’s not the 5,000m you can get on a savage day. The route is stunning as it crosses the southern Alps Km 40.0 – Col des Lèques, 6 kilometre-long climb at 5.3% – category 3Km 67.0 – Col de Toutes Aures, 6.1 kilometre-long climb at 3.1% – category 3Km 96.0 – Col de la Colle-Saint-Michel, 11 kilometre-long climb at 5.2% – category 2Km 139.0 – Col d’Allos, 14 kilometre-long climb at 5.5% – category 1Km 161.0 – Pra Loup, 6.2 kilometre-long climb at 6.5% – category 2 From Inner Ring
Long Wheel Base Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 and while we are on a rest day.. prize money so far. 1. Tinkoff-Saxo 72.580 € 2. Etixx-Quick Step 50.690 € 3. Lotto-Soudal 47.470 € 4. BMC 46.190 € 5. Team Sky 36.130 € 6. MTN-Qhubeka 30.600 € 7. AG2R 26.810 € 8. Katjoesja 26.650 € 9. Movistar 23.820 € 10. Giant-Alpecin 22.640 € 11. Bretagne 15.660 € 12. Cannondale 15.560 € 13. Lampre 14.770 € 14. Europcar 13.300 € 15. Astana 12.270 € 16. Bora-Argon 12.090 € 17. Cofidis 11.780 € 18. Trek 11.200 € 19. LottoNL-Jumbo 11.180 € 20. FDJ 10.280 € 21. IAM Cycling 9.880 € 22. Orica-GreenEdge 6.100 € I wonder how much of tinkoff-saxos winnings is thanks to SAGAN? 80%? Must be way over half.
Gen Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 The Route: déjà vu? If you saw the Dauphiné in June this is identical. It’s 161km, a saw-tooth profile with the 2,250m Col d’Allos before a ski-station summit finish. Sure it’s a mountain stage but the early climbs are steady and there’s “only” 3,700 vertical metres, it’s not the 5,000m you can get on a savage day. The route is stunning as it crosses the southern Alps Km 40.0 – Col des Lèques, 6 kilometre-long climb at 5.3% – category 3Km 67.0 – Col de Toutes Aures, 6.1 kilometre-long climb at 3.1% – category 3Km 96.0 – Col de la Colle-Saint-Michel, 11 kilometre-long climb at 5.2% – category 2Km 139.0 – Col d’Allos, 14 kilometre-long climb at 5.5% – category 1Km 161.0 – Pra Loup, 6.2 kilometre-long climb at 6.5% – category 2 From Inner RingThat was the stage (dauphine) when Martin went on a solo ride hey.. that pretty climb? No spectators apparently allowed on it, no space or something like that.
tombeej Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 I think it was Bardet who went solo, attacking on that last big descent down the Col d'Allos (these are his home mountains, knows them like the back of his hand). I fully expect him to try it again today.
Gen Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 I think it was Bardet who went solo, attacking on that last big descent down the Col d'Allos (these are his home mountains, knows them like the back of his hand). I fully expect him to try it again today.Aaah So not that new climb then?
Gen Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 When are they doing that new climb where tony went solo during dauphine and we were all so miffed that we couldn't see that climb cause tony was so ahead of schedule?
Patchelicious Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Bardet better do something, need his points. Froomey, just don't bliksem off your bike on that decent.
rock Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Would like to see Kudus get some exposure today. Him and Meintjies in the break please.
tombeej Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Stage 5 of the Dauphine was basically the identical route they're racing today. That descent down the Col d'Allos is hairy: high, twisty and very exposed. If someone overcooks a corner today they could fly off into nothingness. That's how Bardet could open a gap there on the descent - he knows every corner. Here's the report of Bardet's win that day: http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/romain-bardet-wins-criterium-du-dauphines-first-mountain-test-176380
Gen Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Ha I found it, it was stage 8 (i think lol)of the Dauphine. it had that beautiful climb in, by the time TV coverage started all we saw were the team cars going up it. As far as I know that pretty climb is in this years TDF Saint-Gervais Mont Blanc / Modane Valfréjus
nochain Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 It's still going to be hard, because Movistar has 2 GC riders (Quintana and Valverde) who are not likely to lose time, so MTN have to hope that the Movistar 3rd rider loses big time each day.Yes will be hard but as I have it is the sum of each day's top 3 riders time that is used.Not top 3 as on GC currently.So maybe only on Friday Saturday and Sunday Quintana and Valverde will be hard to take time on...the other days they might allow a break to go and we must have riders in that move that take 4 or 5 minutes everyday.I don't think a break will win on Friday and Saturday...the GC teams will want those stages so that will be the biggest challenge for us.I think Doug and them will try every possible combination in the book to get that top spot.Lets hope!!!
SwissVan Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Joh.... I'm holding thumbs for Sky and Froome over the next few days....I have this sense of apprehension in the shape of a potent little climber from Colombia who has the potential to derail the Sky train... Vasbyt Chris, you nearly there my tjom from AFRICA
tombeej Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Ha I found it, it was stage 8 (i think lol)of the Dauphine. it had that beautiful climb in, by the time TV coverage started all we saw were the team cars going up it. As far as I know that pretty climb is in this years TDF Saint-Gervais Mont Blanc / Modane Valfréjus Today's stage was definitely stage 5 of the Dauphine though. Here's that descent of the Col d'Allos where Bardet attacked at the summit. Because these are his home roads he was able to open a 1:20 min advantage by the time he reached the bottom. He's a very good descender. Here's footage of that descent. The hairy sections are towards the bottom of the descent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U36X0gsdrgQ
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