Being skinny vs not

[Pants Boy]

Totally ,you must see what the other guy looked like .

 

Nooit man, you're always dissing the guys that make up the numbers in races, making it possible for organizers to host events for 'elites' like you. It's all about genetics, we know, but my genetics tells me I need to race, as well as consume copious amounts pf beer. And chips, as a matter of fact. But that's neither here nor there.

[gasworx]

oh wait & 1 more thing.........(& it's 100% relevant)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6xXEaWz5Iw

[Wez-O]

I weigh 77kg, and my housemate 99kg. We had a bit of a debate. He says he is at a huge disadvantage in terms of climbing because of his extra 22kg. He is not over wieght but not a lot, my opinion is that because his legs are MUCH stronger than mine (more that 22kg's worth) he can not tell me that I am a better climber because of my weight. What are your opinions about this? Not talking about someone very over weight with no power, someone heavier and about 7kg over weight.

It pretty much comes down to the Watts/kg ratio... To win the Tour de France I would imagine you would need to climb somewhere in the region of 6w/kg. For a social rider lets say its 4W/kg. Thus your friend would need to push out (22x4) 88w more than you on a climb to stay with you. And thats a lot of additional power!

However, if you drop your friend into a headwind on a flat,  you are a far superior rider

[ChUkKy]

What I have found

 

I weigh 61kg  (ride MTB) and am a bit of a mountain goat in my climbing. (4.5-5w/kg FTP when on form)

 

I struggle to hold on the flats (power to drag ratio) against the bigger guys. 

 

I like a cadence of around 80rpm, but on longer marathon stages Ill try aim for 90, just to save the legs.

 

on the road i try for 95 rpm as it gives me a slightly higher power output for nearly no additional strain on the muscles to try help stay with the bigger guys.

 

Mike

 

 

Faaark, last time I saw 61kg on the scale was before I lifted my other leg to get on properly.

[blondeonabike]

The display after the comma on my scale is broken.  Sadly it is the only part of the display I am happy to see.

[Escapee..]

Maybe in 2015 I will be as Skinny as Chukky

[ChUkKy]

Maybe in 2015 I will be as Skinny as Chukky

 

eat less pies

[Escapee..]

eat less pies

 

http://makeameme.org/media/created/no-pie-for.jpg

[BLACKvoodoo]

http://makeameme.org/media/created/no-pie-for.jpg

 

I don't think it's that type of pie....

[Frosty]

Its all about sustainable power to weight ratio. For a heavier guy to keep a higher power output level is just not sustainable unless they have some super human genetics.

 

So if you look at general power levels, output for riders tend to range from 200 watts to 350 watts for the average race.

 

 

For example if a cyclist produces a maximum minute power of 350 W during a cycling ramp test and weighs 77 Kgs the power to weight ratio [P/Kg] is expressed as: P/Kg = 350/77 = 4.54 Watts per kilogram of body weight

A cyclist weighing 100 Kgs achieving the same maximum minute power would have a power to weight ratio [P/Kg] of: P/Kg = 350/90 = 3.50 Watts per kilogram of body weight.

 

The big advange will come if the heavier guy starts to lose weight. Thats when his sustainable power output will be of major benefit

 

I was reading those same words on another website... 

[BDF]

I was reading those same words on another website... 

Are you suggesting that Paulst12 has authored articles on Power Training and is quoted all over the interweb?

[hboli4]

http://makeameme.org/media/created/no-pie-for.jpg

 

Where is this from? Is it not the 'Soup Nazi' in a Friends episode, or was it Seinfeld...? Mmmm, come to think of it, might be Seinfeld.

[Frosty]

Are you suggesting that Paulst12 has authored articles on Power Training and is quoted all over the interweb?

I wanted to reply, but saw this message above... D'oh! 

 

[hboli4]

Sorry for the highjack, bothered me, Google confirmed it was Seinfeld.

[Escapee..]

I don't think it's that type of pie....

 

Mossel?

[JannievanZyl]

With weight loss you lose muscle and power fact! I have been training more intensly since my weight loss where I got alot fitter, If I had to keep my power while dropping the weight I would have been a machine.

 

Part of my weight was muscle that I had to lose to tone down certain parts of the body as I used to build it in the gym, so like the famous mr.Wakefield always say.....You can't be a top cyclist and look like a fitness model...you need to choose.

Not a fact at all.

 

As long as you sort your training and diet, you won't go catabolic (waste muscle) and can dump a lot of fat and thus weight. Many people who train properly to loose weight will drop a fair amount of kilos while picking up lean mass.

 

If you want to do the Froome thing and loose as much muscle from areas not directly contributing to your cycling, again adjust your training and diet.