Spoke101 Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Sam Hill?Well there will always be exceptions. Let me try explain better.Downhill courses are normally 100% negative gradient ie. downhill. There for a tougher shoe is required for protection and longevity and as the rider doesn't need to pedal up hill weight is maybe not a primary factor. Enduro on the other hand requires the rider to pedal up to the start of each stage as well as the occasional little rises on the actual stages. This type of riding generally doesn't require the same level of protection but rather lighter weight equipment in order to help reduce the energy needed to pedal it to the top of the hill and subsequent rises on the stages.
willemjnaude Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Do know if my comments will be of any help but I had a look at the Spez 2FO recently and was quite chuffed at how they were put together, feel really well made. I also had a look at the 2FO Clip which is basically the flat that can accommodate SPD cleats and the forecoot/midfoot area is quite alot stiffer than the plain flat shoe. Cant quite wrap my head around why I would buy flats that have cleats...fail to really see the potential benefits of this, only a compromised shoe that tries to fulfill two roles...but thats just my opinion. Sorry that I cant shed any light on which is best or worst but I am actually shopping around for my first pair of flats too????
Capricorn Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 2013 and 2014 Five Tens were all noticably lighter than previous years' models. Its stupid calling it enduro specific. more bandwagon chinwag uurghness. Just say you lookin for the lightest, but toughest MTB shoe you can find. So on that more reasonable basis, lets compare spesh and 5.10 Spesh 2FO flat, size 9 (42): 395g per shoeFive Ten Impact VXi flat, size 9 (42): 360g per shoe In the clipless arena:Spesh 2FO clipless, size 9: 450g per shoeFive Ten Impact VXi clipless, size 9: 410g per shoe All weights quoted from manufacturers websites. Aesthetics aside, its clear which one wins the weight war. Spesh is the new kid on the block, so its durability will be measured up against the legendary status of just about any 5.10 shoe.But there's your metric: light and tough.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Well there will always be exceptions. Let me try explain better. Downhill courses are normally 100% negative gradient ie. downhill. There for a tougher shoe is required for protection and longevity and as the rider doesn't need to pedal up hill weight is maybe not a primary factor. Enduro on the other hand requires the rider to pedal up to the start of each stage as well as the occasional little rises on the actual stages. This type of riding generally doesn't require the same level of protection and lighter weight equipment in order to help reduce the energy needed to pedal it to the top of the hill and subsequent rises on the stages.Bla bla marketing bullshaite bla bla bla... You're talking g 50 to 100g here. Not a kilo or 6...
cadenceblur Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Go with the five tens. Proven to be good and the leader for a reason.
cadenceblur Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 And yes that's a bias opinion. Currently on my second pair of free riders. The first pair was replaced under warranty due to delamination.
Lurch the stalker Posted January 5, 2015 Author Posted January 5, 2015 Honestly, the weight difference means next to nothing to me considering I weigh in at 95kg's, a few grams on the bike or what I am wearing is not really going to be the end of the world. I'll have to get round to the foot measuring to see if the Five Ten's are actually even an option.
SimpleDom Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 The 5.10 sizing guide is pretty accurate. I'm a UK 12 and they fit really well. Mine need a clean, but you're welcome to try them on. Let me know if you want me to bring them to work in Midrand tomorrow.
Guest Omega Man Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 I've got the old Impacts and the new VXi ones. There's a HUGE weight difference between the 2. I've also got a pair of the freeride ones. For me there would have to be a very compelling reason to use anything else. My mate has the Spec shoe and the Impacts. And for him it's the 5.10's 1000 times over.
rudi-h Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Ok so the reply is that both are great, the 2FO's are just quite a bit lighter. So I'd say 5 ten is more of a DH or freeride shoe where 2FO is more enduro don't know how you can say that. ultimately you want grip and the best grip should be the best for any type of riding.
Lurch the stalker Posted January 5, 2015 Author Posted January 5, 2015 The 5.10 sizing guide is pretty accurate. I'm a UK 12 and they fit really well. Mine need a clean, but you're welcome to try them on. Let me know if you want me to bring them to work in Midrand tomorrow.Thanks for the offer Dom.I'm laid up after surgery so not exactly too mobile at the moment but would like to take you up on that when I can.
Bizkit031 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Ah just checked he does use them and Danny Hart,Ragot,Peat so they have some big names backing their name,so got to be good,Five ten are the ballies on the block with the experience and Spez are the new kids on the block but what Five ten have forgotten Spez still has to learn.
Spoke101 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 don't know how you can say that. ultimately you want grip and the best grip should be the best for any type of riding.This is not my opinion. I was quoting some one who has got a pair of both shoes who I asked which he preferred. He obviously has the older 5tens as he prefers the lighter 2FO. But said that they are both great shoes and for him he uses 5ten for DH and 2FO for Enduro.
hayleyearth Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Ok so the reply is that both are great, the 2FO's are just quite a bit lighter. So I'd say 5 ten is more of a DH or freeride shoe where 2FO is more enduro I don't understand your last statement. Is it because saving 200g on shoes will help you get up the hill easier in enduro? And that one doesnt need that much grip when riding enduro? (summary of your previous posts) I dont see the difference shoes will make when comparing DH or freeride to enduro. When I switched to flats (April it is 2 years ago ...time flies) I started riding with a pair of Teva's and about 6 months ago got a pair of 5.10's too. Grip wise I can not tell the difference. Shoe fit wise the 5.10's has stretched a lot over my foot and the Teva's has kept their 'fit'. The Teva's are a bit shorter than the 5.10's and it buggs my toes sometimes. The type of 5.10's I have also takes long to dry. These are the only 2 pairs of shoes I ride in (MTB). For the amount of riding I have done with them on the different terrains I must say I am surprised with how well they have lasted (done many miles of 'hike-a-bike' too). As for sizing - I measured the length of my foot in mm and got the size from the 5.10 sizing chart. It worked perfectly. Side note:My mom thinks so much about flats that I came home the one day to find out 5.10's and Teva's on the kitchen table
Lurch the stalker Posted January 5, 2015 Author Posted January 5, 2015 The type of 5.10's I have also takes long to dry. How long is a long time to dry?
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