JohanC Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 This morning on KFM a guy from PPA said there is a new cycling law in CPT/Western Cape (I think..). Cyclists are not allowed to ride next to each other anymore, only single file. This correct?
Capricorn Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 well, Liezl vd Westhuizen on KFM this morning, made a point to caution drivers about cyclists out riding given its argus season, and then she added that cyclists should stick left and ride single file, pointedly saying not to ride abreast.
(Deon) Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 She's PPA and thinking of cutting her heir like Heidi Klum's. Don't ask. I do however like Heidi's hair. What do you guys think?
Allrounder Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 It is law. Was discussed in another post, will see if I can find it
Allrounder Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted by Dots Legislation in the Western Cape. In my view if motorists and cyclist comply with the legislation below cycling life will be a happy place! Can only keep on hoping both parties will keep it simple and comply with the law! It easy.....or isn't it......PROVINCIAL NOTICEDEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORT AND PUBLIC WORKSP.N. 372/2013 20 November 2013WESTERN CAPE PROVINCIAL ROAD TRAFFIC ADMINISTRATION ACT, 2012 (ACT 6 OF 2012):SAFETY OF CYCLISTS REGULATIONS, 2013The Provincial Minister of Transport and Public Works in the Western Cape, under section 8(1)© of the Western Cape Provincial Road TrafficAdministration Act, 2012 (Act 6 of 2012), has made the regulations set out in the Schedule.SCHEDULEDefinitions1. In these regulations, any word or expression defined in the National Road Traffic Act, 1996 (Act 93 of 1996), or theWestern Cape Provincial RoadTraffic Administration Act, 2012 (Act 6 of 2012), has the same meaning and, unless the context indicates otherwise—‘‘cyclist’’ means a person who rides or attempts to ride a pedal cycle;‘‘National Regulations’’ means the National Road Traffic Regulations, 2000;‘‘pedal cycle lane’’means any area forming part of a public road and which has been designated by the appropriate road traffic sign or road markingfor the exclusive use of cyclists.Duties of driver of motor vehicle when passing cyclist2. (1) The driver of a motor vehicle who passes a cyclist on a public road must—(a) exercise due care while passing the cyclist;(b) leave a distance between the motor vehicle and the cyclist of at least one metre; and© maintain that distance from the cyclist until safely clear of the cyclist.(2) Despite any solid barrier line or other road traffic sign prohibiting encroachment upon the right-hand side of the road, the driver of a motorvehicle on a public road may, where the roadway is not wide enough to comply with subregulation (1)(b) or © when passing a cyclist,encroach on that part of the road to his or her right, but only if—(a) it can be done without obstructing or endangering other persons or vehicles;(b) it is safe to do so; and© it can be done and is done for a period and distance not longer than is necessary to pass the cyclist.Duties of cyclists3. (1) A cyclist riding on a public road must—(a) if the road has a pedal cycle lane, ride only in the pedal cycle lane and may not ride on any other portion of a public road except whencrossing the road; or(b) if there is no pedal cycle lane, ride—(i) to the left of the left edge of the roadway; or(ii) on the roadway, keeping as close as practicable to the left edge of the roadway.(2) When riding on a public road, a cyclist must—(a) give conspicuous driving signals as contemplated in regulation 300 and Part II of Chapter X of the National Regulations; and(b) stop in the circumstances contemplated in regulation 307 of the National Regulations.(3) A person may not ride a pedal cycle on a public road—(a) on the right-hand side of a motor vehicle proceeding in the same direction, except when passing that motor vehicle or turning right atan intersection;(b) abreast of another cyclist proceeding in the same direction, except when passing that cyclist;© while wearing a headset, headphones or any listening device other than a hearing aid; or(d) while carrying another person on the pedal cycle, unless that pedal cycle is specifically equipped to carry more than one person.(4) A cyclist must exercise due care while—(a) passing a motor vehicle or turning right in the circumstances described in subregulation (3)(a); or(b) passing another cyclist in the circumstances described in subregulation (3)(b).20 November 2013 Province of the Western Cape: Provincial Gazette Extraordinary 7194 5Lamps and reflectors on pedal cycles4. (1) A person may not ride a pedal cycle on a public road or pedal cycle lane during the period between sunset and sunrise unless—(a) the pedal cycle is fitted in the front with a head lamp capable of emitting a white light in accordance with regulations 158 and 178 ofthe National Regulations;(b) the pedal cycle is fitted at the rear with a rear lamp capable of emitting a red light in accordance with regulations 158 and 178 of theNational Regulations; and© the head lamp and rear lamp are kept lighted.(2) A person may not ride a pedal cycle on a public road or pedal cycle lane at any other time when, due to insufficient light or unfavourableweather conditions, persons or vehicles on the public road or pedal cycle lane are not clearly discernible at a distance of 150 metres, unlessthe head lamp and rear lamp are kept lighted.(3) A person may not ride a pedal cycle on a public road or pedal cycle lane unless—(a) the pedal cycle is fitted on the front with a white retro-reflector in accordance with regulation 186(3) of the National Regulations; and(b) the pedal cycle is fitted on the rear with a red retro-reflector in accordance with regulation 187(4) of the National Regulations.Races and sporting events for cyclists on public roads5. The Minister or the local authority concerned, as the case may be, may, in granting consent in terms of regulation 317(2) of the NationalRegulations in respect of a pedal cycle race or pedal cycle sporting event on a public road, exempt any person, or category of persons, taking partin that race or event from any provision of these regulations.Offences and penalties6. Any person who contravenes or fails to comply with any provision of these regulations commits an offence, and on conviction is liable to a fineor to imprisonment for a period not exceeding one year.Short title7. These regulations are called the Safety of Cyclists Regulations, 2013.
MaxUmis Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted by Dots Legislation in the Western Cape. In my view if motorists and cyclist comply with the legislation below cycling life will be a happy place! Can only keep on hoping both parties will keep it simple and comply with the law! It easy.....or isn't it...... PROVINCIAL NOTICEDEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORT AND PUBLIC WORKSP.N. 372/2013 20 November 2013WESTERN CAPE PROVINCIAL ROAD TRAFFIC ADMINISTRATION ACT, 2012 (ACT 6 OF 2012):SAFETY OF CYCLISTS REGULATIONS, 2013The Provincial Minister of Transport and Public Works in the Western Cape, under section 8(1)© of the Western Cape Provincial Road TrafficAdministration Act, 2012 (Act 6 of 2012), has made the regulations set out in the Schedule. SCHEDULEDefinitions1. In these regulations, any word or expression defined in the National Road Traffic Act, 1996 (Act 93 of 1996), or theWestern Cape Provincial RoadTraffic Administration Act, 2012 (Act 6 of 2012), has the same meaning and, unless the context indicates otherwise—‘‘cyclist’’ means a person who rides or attempts to ride a pedal cycle;‘‘National Regulations’’ means the National Road Traffic Regulations, 2000;‘‘pedal cycle lane’’means any area forming part of a public road and which has been designated by the appropriate road traffic sign or road markingfor the exclusive use of cyclists. Duties of driver of motor vehicle when passing cyclist2. (1) The driver of a motor vehicle who passes a cyclist on a public road must—(a) exercise due care while passing the cyclist;(b) leave a distance between the motor vehicle and the cyclist of at least one metre; and© maintain that distance from the cyclist until safely clear of the cyclist. (2) Despite any solid barrier line or other road traffic sign prohibiting encroachment upon the right-hand side of the road, the driver of a motorvehicle on a public road may, where the roadway is not wide enough to comply with subregulation (1)(b) or © when passing a cyclist,encroach on that part of the road to his or her right, but only if—(a) it can be done without obstructing or endangering other persons or vehicles;(b) it is safe to do so; and© it can be done and is done for a period and distance not longer than is necessary to pass the cyclist. Duties of cyclists3. (1) A cyclist riding on a public road must—(a) if the road has a pedal cycle lane, ride only in the pedal cycle lane and may not ride on any other portion of a public road except whencrossing the road; or(b) if there is no pedal cycle lane, ride—(i) to the left of the left edge of the roadway; or(ii) on the roadway, keeping as close as practicable to the left edge of the roadway. (2) When riding on a public road, a cyclist must—(a) give conspicuous driving signals as contemplated in regulation 300 and Part II of Chapter X of the National Regulations; and(b) stop in the circumstances contemplated in regulation 307 of the National Regulations. (3) A person may not ride a pedal cycle on a public road—(a) on the right-hand side of a motor vehicle proceeding in the same direction, except when passing that motor vehicle or turning right atan intersection;(b) abreast of another cyclist proceeding in the same direction, except when passing that cyclist;© while wearing a headset, headphones or any listening device other than a hearing aid; or(d) while carrying another person on the pedal cycle, unless that pedal cycle is specifically equipped to carry more than one person. (4) A cyclist must exercise due care while—(a) passing a motor vehicle or turning right in the circumstances described in subregulation (3)(a); or(b) passing another cyclist in the circumstances described in subregulation (3)(b).20 November 2013 Province of the Western Cape: Provincial Gazette Extraordinary 7194 5 Lamps and reflectors on pedal cycles4. (1) A person may not ride a pedal cycle on a public road or pedal cycle lane during the period between sunset and sunrise unless—(a) the pedal cycle is fitted in the front with a head lamp capable of emitting a white light in accordance with regulations 158 and 178 ofthe National Regulations;(b) the pedal cycle is fitted at the rear with a rear lamp capable of emitting a red light in accordance with regulations 158 and 178 of theNational Regulations; and© the head lamp and rear lamp are kept lighted. (2) A person may not ride a pedal cycle on a public road or pedal cycle lane at any other time when, due to insufficient light or unfavourableweather conditions, persons or vehicles on the public road or pedal cycle lane are not clearly discernible at a distance of 150 metres, unlessthe head lamp and rear lamp are kept lighted. (3) A person may not ride a pedal cycle on a public road or pedal cycle lane unless—(a) the pedal cycle is fitted on the front with a white retro-reflector in accordance with regulation 186(3) of the National Regulations; and(b) the pedal cycle is fitted on the rear with a red retro-reflector in accordance with regulation 187(4) of the National Regulations. Races and sporting events for cyclists on public roads5. The Minister or the local authority concerned, as the case may be, may, in granting consent in terms of regulation 317(2) of the NationalRegulations in respect of a pedal cycle race or pedal cycle sporting event on a public road, exempt any person, or category of persons, taking partin that race or event from any provision of these regulations. Offences and penalties6. Any person who contravenes or fails to comply with any provision of these regulations commits an offence, and on conviction is liable to a fineor to imprisonment for a period not exceeding one year. Short title7. These regulations are called the Safety of Cyclists Regulations, 2013. Every time I read these regulations, I wonder how many of us are riding illegally according to section 4.(3)(a) and (b)... Edit -> At least we're allowed to get rid of those yukkie yellow reflectors in the spokes
splat Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 well, Liezl vd Westhuizen on KFM this morning, made a point to caution drivers about cyclists out riding given its argus season, and then she added that cyclists should stick left and ride single file, pointedly saying not to ride abreast.I hope that she also made a point to motorists about this:http://www.bicycling.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/PPA_safecycling2.jpg
Guest Smimby Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 I hope that she also made a point to motorists about this:http://www.bicycling.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/PPA_safecycling2.jpgIt is 1M not 1,5
Sharkie 2 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 It is part of the traffic act if I am not mistaken. Stating a cycle can ride on any road except a national highway, and in single file
Rider3000 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Its amazing to me on how fast we get nailed as cyclists....this is a Respect thing in SA that cars think we dont belong on the roads... ask any real cyclist! This morning again on my morning ride a car was waiting on me to past... as i came nearer she realised i was "just a cyclist" and she almost killed me ! Im no expert but will someone please point out to me if we get hit because we ride next to each other? As i understand it thats hardly the case and allot of guys that gets hit were either riding alone or in a very small group. In europe they ride just like us.... why dont they have the same "respect problem" as we do. I tell it as it is now.... once they get "arrested and jailed" for their actions this will never ever stop in this country... the issue here is the average motorist thinks we "dont belong on the roads". Been in the game for 20 years , yes some of us ride like pigs but the cars dont respect us as cyclists! Since the 1meter rule came in... have anybody been arrested or got into trouble???
Korkstah Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 I think we getting there. It's harsh to compare out country to places like Holland where they have a culture of cycle commuting, it's new here and to me i think the regulators should start taking note of it. I mean less cars on the road is good for everyone, cycle commuting especially in a place like CT is really awesome. It's just unfortunate that we dont have dedicated lanes all the way into town. I am on of those who skips the myciti route and chances it going via the harbour, seems safer. I just use the side roads instead on the left of the R27 so a truck doesnt smash into me. Unfortunately i see so many people riding 2 or 3 abreast which negates all the good work being done by the PPA, if cyclists want the laws to change, then they need to take the lead. People in glass houses dont throw stones.
dre Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Its amazing to me on how fast we get nailed as cyclists....this is a Respect thing in SA that cars think we dont belong on the roads... ask any real cyclist! This morning again on my morning ride a car was waiting on me to past... as i came nearer she realised i was "just a cyclist" and she almost killed me ! Im no expert but will someone please point out to me if we get hit because we ride next to each other? As i understand it thats hardly the case and allot of guys that gets hit were either riding alone or in a very small group. In europe they ride just like us.... why dont they have the same "respect problem" as we do. I tell it as it is now.... once they get "arrested and jailed" for their actions this will never ever stop in this country... the issue here is the average motorist thinks we "dont belong on the roads". Been in the game for 20 years , yes some of us ride like pigs but the cars dont respect us as cyclists! Since the 1meter rule came in... have anybody been arrested or got into trouble???*a lot That's a bad argument saying "yes some cyclists ride like pigs BUT cars don't respect us as cyclists."It is exactly because some cyclists ride like pigs that cars don't respect cyclists. For example, do you respect minibus taxi's? I don't (and most people I know, don't either), because of the fact that 'some' minibus taxi drivers drive like pigs. There are enough cyclists that ride like tw@ts on the roads, which is enough to make any motor vehicle driver (cyclist and non-cyclist) generalise that "cyclists ride like pigs", even though it is only some of them. It is however NOT a justification for mv drivers not to respect fellow road users, but I'm sure you get the logic behind it. If there are no cyclists who rides like pigs, then surely in time that generalisation will die down, but alas, one can only hope.
GoLefty!! Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 *a lot That's a bad argument saying "yes some cyclists ride like pigs BUT cars don't respect us as cyclists."It is exactly because some cyclists ride like pigs that cars don't respect cyclists. For example, do you respect minibus taxi's? I don't (and most people I know, don't either), because of the fact that 'some' minibus taxi drivers drive like pigs. There are enough cyclists that ride like tw@ts on the roads, which is enough to make any motor vehicle driver (cyclist and non-cyclist) generalise that "cyclists ride like pigs", even though it is only some of them. It is however NOT a justification for mv drivers not to respect fellow road users, but I'm sure you get the logic behind it. If there are no cyclists who rides like pigs, then surely in time that generalisation will die down, but alas, one can only hope. Countries where a respect for cyclists exists is not because of good cyclist behaviour but rather because of the commuting culture and the need to protect commuters. Our legislation remains pro motorist despite the western cape by-law allowing cyclists 1m. In The Netherlands, Belgium, France, Switzerland, if you hit a cyclist you are assumed liable and therefore the motorist respects the cyclist. SA motorists will never respect cyclists and pedestrians till the legislation shifts to protect pedestrians and cyclists from an immature motoring society. Look at the uproar on the clamp down on street racing. How effing dumb is that? Street racers cause so many accidents on our roads but now poeple who cycle bt have their businesses associated with street racing are in the M in because of this. First thing you do to children is teach them the rules. Then you enforce the rules. Doesn't work that way in SA.
Albatross Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 More info on the retro reflectors? I think I may be breaking the law
Edge_Design Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 It's quite a coincidence reading this after I had a fellow cyclist jump a stop street straight in front of me this morning - if I had been 10 metres closer to the intersection he wouldn't have gotten home from his ride (side on at 60km/h would really suck for him - and I would have to deal with the consequences too). He then proceeded to jump the next stop street on to Ladies Mile (a very busy road at 6.30am), but as he was turning left he obviously assumed he was allowed to slip in next to the traffic (he jumped it right next to an oncoming car). There is no yellow line there so the cars had to move out for him at the last second. I have been cycling for 20 years and I have no respect for many (not all!) of the cyclists on our roads - I don't care if I'm on my bike or in my car I still have no respect for people riding like idiots. For some reason the worst time for it seems to be DC training in cape town (and not Argus training IMO) - 10+ people training in matching kit and riding 3 abreast is the general giveaway that they want to be a DC team (going for the ever elusive sub-9 probably).
Dirkitech Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Its amazing to me on how fast we get nailed as cyclists....this is a Respect thing in SA that cars think we dont belong on the roads... ask any real cyclist! This morning again on my morning ride a car was waiting on me to past... as i came nearer she realised i was "just a cyclist" and she almost killed me ! Im no expert but will someone please point out to me if we get hit because we ride next to each other? As i understand it thats hardly the case and allot of guys that gets hit were either riding alone or in a very small group. In europe they ride just like us.... why dont they have the same "respect problem" as we do. I tell it as it is now.... once they get "arrested and jailed" for their actions this will never ever stop in this country... the issue here is the average motorist thinks we "dont belong on the roads". Been in the game for 20 years , yes some of us ride like pigs but the cars dont respect us as cyclists! Since the 1meter rule came in... have anybody been arrested or got into trouble???unless the bold portion gets enforced (i.e. probably 50+ taxi driver arrests daily) nothing will improve, in fact, things will only get worse
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