Shimano or sram 1x11?

[Sitting slip]

With the two companies now both with the 1x11 on the market, i can not decide witch one is best.

Sram offers a 10-42 and shimano a 11-40.

Running a 32t at the front wouldn't you get a better top speed and climbing ability from sram?

And if shimano only offers a 11-40 cassette wouldn't it be cheaper just to do a 1x10 conversion and add a 42t to your normal ten cassette

[rock]

on paper it would seem Sram has the upper hand with both a lower and higher gear than what Shimano can offer.

 

If it was my money and I was interested in gears, I'd go Sram.

 

In fact, I'd go 2x10

[Wyatt Earp]

With the two companies now both with the 1x11 on the market, i can not decide witch one is best.

Sram offers a 10-42 and shimano a 11-40.

Running a 32t at the front wouldn't you get a better top speed and climbing ability from sram?

And if shimano only offers a 11-40 cassette wouldn't it be cheaper just to do a 1x10 conversion and add a 42t to your normal ten cassette

I see so many guys do this and it's just stupid IMHO, all that just to get the 1X whatever effect or look.

The jump to that 42 is so big that you can't get your cadence right.

[Jaco-fiets]

The sram 1x11 is race proven in my opinion. Love my XX1

 

On the road goupsets side the mechanics seems to think it is easier to maintain shimano than sram. If that is the case with the mtb groupsets then shimano is not a bad joice.

[Mike Bike]

I am also a sram 1X 11 fan. Better spread of gears. Nice progression thru the cassette.

[BBN]

 

 

I see so many guys do this and it's just stupid IMHO, all that just to get the 1X whatever effect or look.
The jump to that 42 is so big that you can't get your cadence right.

Mmmmm........don't think so, Sram 10-42 has 36-42 jump, same as an 11-36 cassette with a 42!

[EmptyB]

Sram..........

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

If you prefer shimano goodies, then you can run a shimano drivetrain 1x11 and opt for the SRAM cassette. It works, according to several other sites & tests. 

[Alouette3]

Shimano did come out and say a little while ago that there 1x11 is not perfect, and for better performance and shifting etc. 2x10 is recommended. But due to the demand in the market they can't not offer a 1x11 option.

[JXV]

I changed my 2x10 XT to 1x10 with a 42t extender and a 34 NW chainring up front. It works but compared to 2x10 I have lost gearing range at both the top and the bottom.

For recreational trail riding it is not an issue because all gradients on my local trails are manageable. For racing (when your legs get tired), riding to and from trailheads on tar and for exploring off-trail I am missing the extra top and bottom end that the 2x10 gave me. The weight loss of the 1x10 conversion is not as noticeable as lost gearing range and I may go back to 2x10.

 

For the XX1 vs XTR debate the XX1 clearly has superior range but the initial cost and the cost of replacement cassettes is very high. Those XX1 cassettes are machined as a single piece from a solid billet of whatever material they use - very expensive machining and material costs for this....explains the price.

[Wyatt Earp]

Mmmmm........don't think so, Sram 10-42 has 36-42 jump, same as an 11-36 cassette with a 42!

Every single bike I have had the guys were running a 34, stupid logic .

And most of the 10-42's that come in ,the 42 hardly ever gets touched.

It throws the cadence out something stupid .

Shimano are on the right track with their 40, they just need to change the 11 to a 10 .

[Sitting slip]

If the shimano goodies work on a sram cassette then hopefully shimano catches on.

The simplicity of the 1x11 with the right gearing makes riding much easier than worring about cross chain on a 2 or 3 x10 system especially if you are doing fast technical climbs.

Regarding the xx1 prices of cassettes there is xo and x1 witch(not much) makes a difference.

I hear shimano will bring an xt version out....

[BBN]

If the shimano goodies work on a sram cassette then hopefully shimano catches on.

The simplicity of the 1x11 with the right gearing makes riding much easier than worring about cross chain on a 2 or 3 x10 system especially if you are doing fast technical climbs.

Regarding the xx1 prices of cassettes there is xo and x1 witch(not much) makes a difference.

I hear shimano will bring an xt version out....

If Shimano bring out a 1x11 XT version with 10-40 or 10-42, I will have a look, for now, 1x11 is far too expensive to tempt me away from my 1x10 11-42, even if I do agree that the 13-16-19 ratio change in the middle is not the best.

[Tedster]

Had 2x10 xtr on my bike, went 1x11 sram. Very happy this far.

[SCD]

Every single bike I have had the guys were running a 34, stupid logic .

And most of the 10-42's that come in ,the 42 hardly ever gets touched.

It throws the cadence out something stupid .

Shimano are on the right track with their 40, they just need to change the 11 to a 10 .

Wyatt, you must try a proper setup. I also see a lot of guys with their 1x10 not properly dialled in. I think the 36-42 jump is just fine. For Cape Town trails a 32t in front is perfect. If you are halfways fit you climb anything from Conterman's mast to Table Montain's MF hills to Tokai mast. I seldom need to go faster than 40 on a flat so I can live with limitation on the fast end. Surely it comes down to a matter of personal preference. But so far I think the benefits are far outweighing the disadvantages.

 

In response to the OP: If I had the money I would go for SRAM simply because of the 10t in the cassette, the weight, the grip shift, and the new XTR derailleur just looking horrific!

[V12man]

If you prefer shimano goodies, then you can run a shimano drivetrain 1x11 and opt for the SRAM cassette. It works, according to several other sites & tests. 

Where did you see this? got any links?