Skubarra Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 Ja Ja Ja,,,are you the one that's been in my head all this time? I know scuba and you are 100% correct.But first time doing Argus and getting the sub 3 would be a killer for Bragging rights.And seeing that im doing it first time and only been cycling for a few months .....why not just go for it. The way I see it , I will need to pace according the 3hours landmarks. If the group helps me out...great , if not... I will still try and achieve them. Rather fail trying then fail without even trying, my 2c Nothing wrong with trying, go for it. Just don't let an awesome experience sneak by you unnoticed while you are fixated on one thing. Enjoy!
NickGM Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 The group/peleton you are in is everything. My advice would be to ride hard in the beginning to get into a decent bunch that are moving along at a good pace. Then conserve energy for the majority of the race by riding smart thereafter and staying with the bunch. Do some pulling because everyone should do some hard time, but then after that fall back and sit in the pocket. You will need energy at the end to just "hang on". Unless you are flipping amazing on a bike, you are not going to ride at the required 36.5kph solo on what is likely to be a windy day. That's just not how it works, although it often helps to learn this the hard way! Ja Ja Ja,,,are you the one that's been in my head all this time? I know scuba and you are 100% correct.But first time doing Argus and getting the sub 3 would be a killer for Bragging rights.And seeing that im doing it first time and only been cycling for a few months .....why not just go for it. The way I see it , I will need to pace according the 3hours landmarks. If the group helps me out...great , if not... I will still try and achieve them. Rather fail trying then fail without even trying, my 2c
RDK Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 Your arse wont be though Yip forsure not I can vouch for that hehehehe, I did a 6:44 last year and after that I didnt even have feeling in the MNR anymore.
Stricker Posted February 20, 2015 Author Posted February 20, 2015 Nothing wrong with trying, go for it. Just don't let an awesome experience sneak by you unnoticed while you are fixated on one thing. Enjoy!Awesome experience?Are we talking about the same sport? Blood sweat and vomiting? Don't worry, every time I get on my bike its an awesome experience.
Stricker Posted February 20, 2015 Author Posted February 20, 2015 The group/peleton you are in is everything. My advice would be to ride hard in the beginning to get into a decent bunch that are moving along at a good pace. Then conserve energy for the majority of the race by riding smart thereafter and staying with the bunch. Do some pulling because everyone should do some hard time, but then after that fall back and sit in the pocket. You will need energy at the end to just "hang on". Unless you are flipping amazing on a bike, you are not going to ride at the required 36.5kph solo on what is likely to be a windy day. That's just not how it works, although it often helps to learn this the hard way!That's the plan.Same like we did in the 99er, pull very hard over the first 20km, catch a group or 2 and let then hang on
'Dale Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 Only Tony Martin can look at the time chart and control his effort accordingly.Hehehe Otherwise, aim to stay in the top 10-15 racers in 2A as your highest priority and get to the white chalk with the best possible finishing time.
SL7 Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 2AFrom 2A it is doable but depends on the wind. Little wind and 1000+ will ride sub 3 as opposed to 300 on a very windy day.
Malpiet Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 I'm in the same group. Does anyone know what group this would be if we had the old seeding groups?I think S-T
Six13 Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 With the old seeding you had to be exceptional to get sub 3 if you started in a group after "E", so if yours is the equivalent of "S" then I'm afraid it's going to be very difficult! Anyway good luck and enjoy your ride!
rudi-h Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 Not sure if 2A will cut it. My only previous argus was on a windless 2011 and I started in G (should be equivalent to 2A I think?) and only 2 guys in the group managed a sub3. The rest of us in the main bunch came in at 3:07 Edit: I just counted the bunches and although we do not know the bunch sizes, 2A would likely be closer to the old group K. Sorry to say but in that case you are doomed...
Oufy MTB (Roadie) Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 Not sure if 2A will cut it. My only previous argus was on a windless 2011 and I started in G (should be equivalent to 2A I think?) and only 2 guys in the group managed a sub3. The rest of us in the main bunch came in at 3:07 Edit: I just counted the bunches and although we do not know the bunch sizes, 2A would likely be closer to the old group K. Sorry to say but in that case you are doomed...Me seems to think that 2A is better than the old K group
Thor Buttox Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 My seeding index last year was 26 and I was in C. This year it is 19 and I am in 1F.i think only one person after C group was sub-3 last year, and I believe it was a hectic triathlon star who time trialed from G or something.
devocean Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 In my first year of cycling (2008), I did a 3:10 from group M, but the weather was absolutely perfect and not a breath of wind. Without being in a decent bunch, not sure how strong you have to be to shave off those 10 mins. If you are in a decent enough bunch, just make sure you're one of the first riders to the top of Smitswinkels if the wind is blowing South East.
Zariuss Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I am starting in 5B and riding on a Fatbike for CHOC. I will be trying to come past all of you sub3 oaks and catch Herman Fouche as I believe its his year for winning... lol !!
CrankShaft Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Sub 3 ? Way beyond my genetic potential.:: good luck with that
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