Stretch Posted March 20, 2015 Share I've got a brand new M400, never used, if anyone's keen on it.R2500.(need to get round to posting an ad ) good deal that...you could have shouted 3 months ago when i bought mine although I do like that the F15 is waterproof...is the m400 waterproof as a matter of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted March 20, 2015 Share so given the exact same technique, is there still a benefit of five fingers over cushioned soles?Provided it's a very thin cushion the benefit should be the same . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted March 20, 2015 Share Could you use it for sky run?in stopwatch mode only...gps wont last for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.T.G Posted March 20, 2015 Share What colour?Black.I can send you a pic a bit later if you'd like, pretty pointless though, it's still in an unopened box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.T.G Posted March 20, 2015 Share Could you use it for sky run?not familiar with the event, what would you need it to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted March 20, 2015 Share in stopwatch mode only...gps wont last for thatVery few units will . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-Boy Posted March 20, 2015 Share not familiar with the event, what would you need it to do?Run offroad for 100ks!The M400 wouldnt last long enough for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-h Posted March 20, 2015 Share Provided it's a very thin cushion the benefit should be the same . come on Wyatt... is it really that hard to answer what I'm asking? and I'm not being silly or overly persistent, I really would like to know the truth. Once you have mastered the correct running technique i.e. forefoot strike and high pace count. Is there any benefit of running barefoot (or with something like 5 fingers) as opposed to running with normal cushioned shoes (e.g. Asics) If so, what is the harm in the additional cushioning. To me it seems like the case of "more of a good thing", but I'm really interested to learn more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted March 20, 2015 Share come on Wyatt... is it really that hard to answer what I'm asking? and I'm not being silly or overly persistent, I really would like to know the truth. Once you have mastered the correct running technique i.e. forefoot strike and high pace count. Is there any benefit of running barefoot (or with something like 5 fingers) as opposed to running with normal cushioned shoes (e.g. Asics) If so, what is the harm in the additional cushioning. To me it seems like the case of "more of a good thing", but I'm really interested to learn more!First off, if you can't have any manners then desist from asking me questions.I am answering you what more do you want, if you want me to answer with words and a manner that suits you then type me the answer via pm. I will copy and paste it for you as an answer. The second paragraph, striking with the forefoot makes you put most of the impact i to the muscles as opposed to all that jarring in to your bones.The fact that you strike with the forefoot also eliminates any pronation or supination issues (if you can't understand that and need more info on that, do your own homework like the rest of us) The cushioning is not an issue if you have less of it, the more cushioning you have, the more room you have for movement, same as that gel cover you have on your bicycle . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.T.G Posted March 20, 2015 Share Run offroad for 100ks!The M400 wouldnt last long enough for that. Will anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-Boy Posted March 20, 2015 Share Will anything? Yes, Things like the Fenix and Ambit can do it, they have a lower metering mode for GPS where it doesnt take positional readings as often. In their lowest monitoring mode they can do around 50 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.T.G Posted March 20, 2015 Share Yes, Things like the Fenix and Ambit can do it, they have a lower metering mode for GPS where it doesnt take positional readings as often. In their lowest monitoring mode they can do around 50 hours.I'd need about 5 of each then... That's how long a 100km trail run would take me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-h Posted March 20, 2015 Share First off, if you can't have any manners then desist from asking me questions.I am answering you what more do you want, if you want me to answer with words and a manner that suits you then type me the answer via pm. I will copy and paste it for you as an answer. The second paragraph, striking with the forefoot makes you put most of the impact i to the muscles as opposed to all that jarring in to your bones.The fact that you strike with the forefoot also eliminates any pronation or supination issues (if you can't understand that and need more info on that, do your own homework like the rest of us) The cushioning is not an issue if you have less of it, the more cushioning you have, the more room you have for movement, same as that gel cover you have on your bicycle .Thanks, the last paragraph explains it. I really didn't mean to offend, the "come on wyatt.. " was tongue in cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted March 20, 2015 Share I'd need about 5 of each then... That's how long a 100km trail run would take me They do have a cut-off time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted March 20, 2015 Share Will anything? The polar V800 is supposed to do 50 hrs with GPS off and HR onwith both will not get much past 12 hrs in my experience (new and fully charged) Is there not an option to turn the GPS off on the M400? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted March 20, 2015 Share Thanks, the last paragraph explains it. I really didn't mean to offend, the "come on wyatt.. " was tongue in cheek.Only time I have seen problems with minimalist shoes are where people simply do not adapt (for various reasond) their running style to forefoot strike.They stay on a heal strike in a shoe without cushioning... and eventually get injured. Additional cusioning allows more lateral movement increasing the effect of pronation/supination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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