ASG Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Event Name: Bestmed Tour Of Good HopeWhen: 1 March 2015 - 4 March 2016Where: Good Hope, Western CapeCategory: RoadWhat was previously known as the Tour de Boland will from 2016 be called the Bestmed Tour of Good Hope Presented by Rudy Project. What was previously known as the Tour de Boland will from 2016 be called the Bestmed Tour of Good Hope Presented by Rudy Project. The 2016 Bestmed Tour of Good Hope will be presented with the full support and by essentially the same team, sponsors and partners that have been involved to date but with some notable improvements and new features specifically related to electronic timing and a much greater focus on the Amateur (open/seeded) team and individual event. Certain racing components that we could not implement this year due to timing challenges will be features of the 2016 tour including a King of the Mountains – and Points competition (and jerseys) among other things in the open/seeded section. The 2016 Bestmed Tour of Good Hope (previously Tour de Boland) will again be presented in the week leading up to the Cape Town Cycle Tour from 29 February to 4 March 2016 and be based in the Paarl/Franschhoek valley, encompassing five days of clover leaf racing from this wonderful location in die Cape Winelands. We believe this format (central race village hub) will significantly reduce the logistics and ‘own costs’ of participants related to traveling and accommodation while incorporating some of the best and most famous cycling routes and mountain passes in the Western Cape. We are trying to minimise rider costs and logistical difficulties around the tour as much as possible for next year. These changes will decrease the hassle factor considerably. Bestmed, as the event title sponsor, and ASG will continue working with CSA to attain UCI accreditation for the 2016 event, which will make it a fully fledged international tour. Electronic timing in the 2016 event will bring the Bestmed Tour of Good Hope in line with all ten of our other national road races. The amateur and team section of the tour in the Open/Seeded category was an ASG brainchild and after an experimental (very modest) start last year, it scaled exactly like we expected it would this year we are convinced it will continue to grow. This year we could not accommodate more than 200 riders in this category and as such will implement the necessary measures and investment for 2016 to be able to allow more riders to enjoy this experience.The total amount of entries for the 2016 tour will be limited to 1000 riders with bunches made up provisionally as follows:Elite Men: 100 ridersVets 30 +: 80 ridersVets 40 +: 80 ridersVets 50 +: 80 ridersElite Ladies: 30Licensed Juniors (2nd year only): 30Open/Seeded A bunch: 200Open/Seeded B bunch: 200Open/Seeded Teams: 160 (20 teams of 8 riders each)The entry fee for the 5-day tour next year will be R3300 per rider, but we are making entries available to 2015 participants at R2900 per entry until 31 March 2015 after which we will open entries to the general public. In addition to the reduced rate and as a token of our gratitude to the ongoing support from riders, Italian company, Rudy Project (as part of its ‘presenting sponsor’ commitment) will sponsor a top of the range helmet (valued at more than R2000) for all 2015 riders who re-enter for the 2016 tour by 31 March. Goody bags will again feature ample valuable items and our partners have all committed to adding even more value for the 2016 tour. The 2016 Tour entry fee will also now include a daily lunch (at the race village).A significant increase in prizes and prize money in all categories will be announced soon. Venue: We will be entering into negotiations with several estates in the valley to host the race village for 2016 – as soon as an agreement is reached more information will be provided. Provisional Stages (all stages start and finish in Paarl): Stage 1: The Famous 4 Passes Route.Starting in Paarl, the stage heads out over Helshoogte to Somerset West before riders will climb the famous Sir Louwry’s Pass turn left into Grabouw and then return to Paarl via Viljoen’s Pass and the Franschhoek Pass.Stage 2: 30km individual TT; triangular circuit to Franschhoek and back.Stage 3: Franschhoek (including Franschhoek pass), Villiersdorp, du Toitskloof Pass, PaarlStage 4: Du Toitskloof pass (from Paarl side), Slanghoek and back via Bainskloof PassStage 5: Paarl, Malmesbury, Paardeberg, Suid-agter Paarl, Paarl (Taalmonument finish) TO SECURE YOUR ENTRY IN THE PREFERENTIAL ENTRY WINDOW, CLICK HERE. For further information email eventsupport@asgworld.co.za or phone 076 621 1807 A new look tour website will be launched soon. PLEASE NOTE: We need to make it clear that the official tour for 2016 as highlighted in this document - the Tour of Good Hope (previously Tour de Boland) - should not be confused by the Tour de Boland tour of 2016 as communicated by Mr Carinus Lemmer. ASG, our sponsors and partners in this event have no affiliation or connection to Mr Lemmer. As such please make 100% sure you enter the correct tour.Go to Event Page
Bankie99 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I said this in the Tour de Boland thread as well Having 2 tours in the same area at the exact same time is not healthy for the sport. A consensus needs to be reached between the 2 organizers and either go back to having 1 race namely Tour de Boland or have 2 separate events months apart. Having 2 road tour events could actually be quite nice as we currently have tons of multi-day MTB races and all of them are successful.
Bankie99 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Personally I would love to do both events as the routes are different but not possible if both are on the exact same date. Why not have 1 tour in summer and 1 in autumn or spring? I don't know just saying.
Skubarra Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 What was previously known as the Tour de Boland will from 2016 be called the Bestmed Tour of Good Hope Presented by Rudy Project. If what was known as the Tour de Boland is now known as the Tour de Good Hope then what is the thing now known as the Tour de Boland?
Tjommie Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 First the issue between CSA and PPA before CTCT All I want to do is participate in a multi day stage race and enjoy my cycling Unfortunate we have to choose Now we have to listen to politics between organisations and individuals fighting for control over a race. Doesn't seem like the cycling fraternity can ever agree on anything
Skubarra Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Why not have 1 tour in summer and 1 in autumn or spring? I don't know just saying. Bankie, I think a lot of people coming down for the Argus make a week of it so it is an ideal time to host a tour as a lot of people are flying down anyway. Not to mention the teams that are already here for the Argus. Which is why both events will be fighting it out in the same timeslot...
Bankie99 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Bankie, I think a lot of people coming down for the Argus make a week of it so it is an ideal time to host a tour as a lot of people are flying down anyway. Not to mention the teams that are already here for the Argus. Which is why both events will be fighting it out in the same timeslot... I get what you are saying but I still think that the Western Cape needs more multi day road races. We have a whole host of MTB stage races and they are sold out in hours in most cases so I dont see why not.
openmind Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 This is bullsh1t. So the sponsor now wants to steal the tour. Let's see who gets the cooperation of the traffic authorities et al. For the real Tour de Boland that will be hosted again in 2016, sign up at http://www.tourdeboland.co.za Grrr...
Napalm Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Event Name: Bestmed Tour Of Good HopeWhen: 1 March 2015 - 4 March 2016Where: Good Hope, Western CapeCategory: MTB The amateur and team section of the tour in the Open/Seeded category was an ASG brainchild and after an experimental (very modest) start last year, it scaled exactly like we expected it would this year we are convinced it will continue to grow. Dear Tour of Good Hope, Stop lying. It was not your brainchild - it was discussed YEARS before you ever came into the picture with the Tour de Boland; which you're now trying to hijack with this event.
ScottCM Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Personally i think this is in bad taste. Obviously there was stuff behind the scenes that we aren't and won't ever know about and i won't say who is right or wrong. But saying TOGH is Tour DE Boland while TDB is still running is just low class. Plus the ASG event is 65% more expensive than the TDB. How can we grow the sport if the people who have the most power in the sport can't do what is best for the sport?
dre Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I've have no dog in this race and don't really care for road cycling... but seems like a d**k move by ASG.
ASG Posted March 25, 2015 Author Posted March 25, 2015 Personally i think this is in bad taste. Obviously there was stuff behind the scenes that we aren't and won't ever know about and i won't say who is right or wrong. But saying TOGH is Tour DE Boland while TDB is still running is just low class. Plus the ASG event is 65% more expensive than the TDB. How can we grow the sport if the people who have the most power in the sport can't do what is best for the sport?Hi ScotC-M , it's not a new race - everything is the same - the Tour of Good Hope is everything the Tour de Boland was (same blueprint, same organisers, same sponsors, same 'vision', same PR company, same Television coverage, same pro teams, same IT support teams, UCI accreditation application, same sanctioning, same entry systems, same support, same charities, same development teams support, same traffic dept support, etc) ONLY MINUS CARINUS LEMMER (that's it) and the name (TOUR DE BOLAND) - Carinus registered the 'Tour de Boland' name and now personally laid claim to it (arguing it belongs to the ‘people’) after 3 years of ASG and ASG procured sponsors' investment. We probably should have, but instead of disputing it we are carrying on under another name and relinquishing significant IP value in the old name – we took this path not wanting to get into a Social Media 'battle' with Mr Lemmer – so much for that idea J. For a host of different reasons we have decided to completely part ways with Mr Lemmer. To be 100% clear then, from our perspective, Tour of Good Hope is most certainly the previously called Tour de Boland and what Carinus will present (if he continues) is going to be something completely new with an old name. In the end everyone has a choice which event they want to enter (if any) and what conclusions they want to draw (without all the facts which thankfully all event partners and sponsors do have) - despite this significant setback and unfortunate turn of events, we'll carry on presenting the best possible tour with some significant new features and improvements (as highlighted in our launch document which incidentally also addresses many of the issues raised in this forum). Judging by the official event feedback (survey to current year participants) and pre-launch entries for 2016 (open to current year participants only) we would argue that we have the support and trust of most existing participants but realize that we also have a huge responsibility to deliver a fantastic event to them, our participant clients in 2016. In closing we should also state that this entire process was initially completely out of our control – Mr Lemmer initiated the process (registering the name and informing people on Social Media that he is getting rid of ASG) - we only picked up on this in Social Media). We feel our reaction to him is more than appropriate considering all the facts and that's probably as much as we can say on a forum like this...
ASG Posted March 25, 2015 Author Posted March 25, 2015 Dear Tour of Good Hope, Stop lying. It was not your brainchild - it was discussed YEARS before you ever came into the picture with the Tour de Boland; which you're now trying to hijack with this event.Sorry Napalm, If it was discussed somewhere 'years before ASG got involved' we apologise if we offended you - not sure how we could have been expected to know about this? This 'idea' certainly was only implemented last year (on an experimental basis) and this year under ASG control (not being aware of the discussion 'YEARS AGO'). There can be no dispute that event grew significantly in terms of participation (over the last 3 years and under ASG) and partly as a result of 'investing' in this idea.
Shebeen Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I've have no dog in this race and don't really care for road cycling... but seems like a d**k move by ASG.not the first time either, you would think these guys would learn.
ScottCM Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Hi ScotC-M , it's not a new race As i said there has definately been things that happened behind the scene and we don't know and don't really care about it. That fact remains that you say TOGH is TDB except without the owner of TDB... Then to me its not the TDB. Secondly , hosting it on the same days as the TDB is in no ones interest. i would have separated them buy a few months and then let by gones be by gones. But that's just me. Good luck with your event and i truly hope it prospers as we need more stage races for the future talent of this country.
Napalm Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Sorry Napalm, If it was discussed somewhere 'years before ASG got involved' we apologise if we offended you - not sure how we could have been expected to know about this? This 'idea' certainly was only implemented last year (on an experimental basis) and this year under ASG control (not being aware of the discussion 'YEARS AGO'). There can be no dispute that event grew significantly in terms of participation (over the last 3 years and under ASG) and partly as a result of 'investing' in this idea. I know about this because I was at the meeting where it was discussed. By your logic, if you sponsor the paper plates at the Tour de France, you're within your rights to then launch the Real Tour de France and claim to be the real event? Also to hold it in the exact same area, at the same time is shameless, and bad timing. Then again, timing does seem to be an issue with you.
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