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Can I use MTB Shoes on Flats


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Sorry Kransie, but they are absolutely not fine on the flats. At all. The soled are hard, uncopromising almost plasticized rubber, which will offer no grip on the pedals whatsoever. 

I dont believe the OP is intending to try any North Shore work quite yet and it will be fine until he plucks up the courage to get clipless pedals and cleats

Running shoes offer even less grip and thousands of beginners and fun riders out there are riding with them with no issues

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I dont believe the OP is intending to try any North Shore work quite yet and it will be fine until he plucks up the courage to get clipless pedals and cleats

Running shoes offer even less grip and thousands of beginners and fun riders out there are riding with them with no issues

No, they don't. Running shoes aren't that bad to start off with. They don't have as much grip as a dedicated set of flat pedal she's like 5-10's or tevas but they have far more grip than those ballet shoes.

 

You're also confusing those plastic pieces of crap that bikes are shipped with as flats. They're not.

 

I say again. Those shoes have no business being anywhere close to a set of flat pedals and will slip off.

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You are looking at the situation incorrectly.  Don't waste more money to buy trainers that you can use with flats.  Rather spend the money and get proper pedals.  Then learn to ride with them.  It will help you to make use of the correct way of pedalling by using the full circle in the pedal stroke, thereby increasing your efficiency, and by consequence, your power and speed.

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With this thread in mind I hoped onto a friends jump bike (fitted with flats) at Uitsig on Saturday wearing my normal MTB shoes.  I did one lap and handed it back.  There is zero grip and feel - I was on edge the whole time unsure of where my foot was on the pedal.

 

There is no way that this is a viable option at all.  Get pedals to fit the shoes that you already have.  It's the cheapest and best route to go.

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You are looking at the situation incorrectly.  Don't waste more money to buy trainers that you can use with flats.  Rather spend the money and get proper pedals.  Then learn to ride with them.  It will help you to make use of the correct way of pedalling by using the full circle in the pedal stroke, thereby increasing your efficiency, and by consequence, your power and speed.

yeah. Even though I'm a flat pedal lover, we don't even know what type of pedals the oke has, and whether they're flats, or just those stupid bits of plastic that come with the bike.

 

From a cost perspective, even if he already HAS flat pedals (the proper ones, with pins in them) the best route would be to go get a pair of PDM520's from the local bike shop, and use those. If not, then a good set of flats would be R 750 and up, and then the shoes would be minimum R 800 (vans) to R 2,000 (upper end of 5-10's)

 

He already has the shoes, the pedals are the next step. Unless he wants to learn proper technique, in which case a good set of flats and some proper shoes will be the best way to go. But that's going to cost

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Are these shoes hard enough some people saying it's not stiff enough

Stiffness level 4

 

I've got the girls version which are the same except the colour and am loving them.  I have inserted the cleat plate in mine so now using them with cleats and they are more comfortable than my mtb shoes and actually feel more solid.

 

The advantage is that I can walk normally with them as the cleats don't stick out like on mtb shoes.  I have a 6 year old who loves singletrack and I find I am often having to get off to help him over bridge / obstacles.  With these shoes its easy.

 

 

 

 

 

They are a lot stiffer than my running shoes. 

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Thanks for the replies

 

So to put it into perspective

 

1. The flats are not true flats just those ones that come standard with bike

2. I am total beginner still trying to balance properly on bike and impulsively bought the shoes thinking they may work as my trainers were too uncomfortable

3. Whether in going to clipless or not im not sure as I said I still trying to balance on my bike lol

 

The question is thus do I

A: keep the shoes thinking maybe clipless one day

B: return them

C: change to the other pair which gives both options

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If you keep them, and use your existing pedals with the trainers, you'll just end up hurting yourself.

 

You have 2 options, basically - 

 

1 - return the shoes, get a PROPER set of flats (dial'd bikes) and a pair of Vans / skate shoes

2 - buy the clipless pedals (cleats)

 

In both situations, you need to get hold of those plastic POS's, and throw them as FAR as you can, and never look back.

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Another option is a set of hybrid pedals, which allows you to use the Spez shoes with the clipless side, but can also be ridden with flat shoes on the flat side. Just keep in mind that the flat side of those pedals don't have very large platforms, so they don't offer the same size contact patch as proper flat pedals. 

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ok let me try and clear thing up for you

The shoes you bought are intended to be used with cleat pedals only.

The soles offer little to no grip because grip is not required when clipped in.

(There are shoe and pedal combos which offer platform grip around the cleats aswell but lets not get into that just yet) 

shoe-cleat-placement.jpg

the metal bits screwed into the shoes are called cleats

They clip into pedals that look like these 

5390_shimano_m520_spd_pedals.jpg

http://ancillary.edinburghbicycle.com/image-cache/00014744/00015879/extra-large/shimano-touring-spd-pedals-a600.jpg

a clipless pedal with a bit of a platform cage.

 

Now lets move onto the flats

This is a proper flat pedal

http://www.biketrial.si/shop/images/Echo_SL_Flat_Pedals_2010.jpg

intended for use with shoes like these

http://www.zappos.com/images/751/7513788/10757-849845-p.jpg

See the grippy rubber sole and those rasied pins in the flat pedal.

Together they offer phenomenal grip. Some argue that they offer so much grip that clipping in may seem like an unnecessary disadvantage.

You will hear many sides to the argument around clipless vs flats.

But in the end the choice is based on personal preference.

Something you just have to figure out for yourself.

We can advise. But we can't decide your preference for you

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41smoC94qxL._SY300_.jpg

Lastly the image above are not considered flat pedals.

They are (according to mtb jargon) amusingly refered to as bear traps.

They really are terrible for use beyond testing the bike out at the store.

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Get the Shimano trail pedals, then do the following;  make yourself a 6m by 3m box on grass and try to cycle a figure 8 slowly in that box.  You might fall over a few times, but this exercise will get your balance sorted real quick, as well as training you to clip in and out quickly.  Don't be scared.  Just do it.  You may thank me later when you rip up the singletrack.

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Now I'm not going to tell you what you should do.

But here is my suggestion.

If you are fond of specialized range of products.

Perhaps return the shoes you bought and swap them for a pair of these.

http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p5pb11228146/p5pb11228146.jpg

Its called the specialized 2fo clip. (There are dedicated flat sole versions of these too)

But this is specializes attempt at offering the best of both worlds.

The use of the same grippy compound rubber used in dedicated flat shoes are incorporated into a shoe intended for use with clipless pedals.

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure the shoe comes with a rubber insert where the cleats screw in. So you can use them as flats (with decent pedals) or choose to clip in (with clipless pedals.

According to a pinkbike review they offer excellent grip with flat pedals

Now I'm not a specialized fan. But I would sell my hands for a pair of these shoes.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-L9a2U3PNnF0/U_M4IMfCFyI/AAAAAAACLWE/9vgGbauDY4w/s1600/clip2fo.jpg

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