Marnitz Nienaber Posted August 5, 2015 Author Posted August 5, 2015 There's going to be some serious entertainment between Rondawel and PA next year....SuzieQ knows Hmmm some more Trail Magic........
M Hickley Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Advice for first timer: R2R Navigation, how difficult is it? Is map reading very important or is the narratives sufficient? How do one train to navigate with a map?
cat-i Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Advice for first timer: R2R Navigation, how difficult is it? Is map reading very important or is the narratives sufficient? How do one train to navigate with a map? I believe Glenn updated the narratives a bit. Back in 2009 a description may have been something like "turn right just after the pink house" and when you got there, all the houses were pink. So back then the map was the reliable source.
M Hickley Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 I think I will be fine putting the distances, narratives and map together, but I fear tricky situations where you have to use a compass ect. I don't want to get lost and sleep out in the cold.
johannrissik Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Three words. Maps. Narratives. Compass. Maybe also spend as much time as you can looking at it on Google Earth, helps you failiarize yourself with some sections, at least then you have some idea of what expect.
M Hickley Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Ok, I already checked the route via Google and will do some more work. How do I train with the compass?
johannrissik Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Chris Fisher ran a training event earlier this year, he's the map boffin. There must be compass instructionals on the world wide web
dirtrider Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 I think I will be fine putting the distances, narratives and map together, but I fear tricky situations where you have to use a compass ect. I don't want to get lost and sleep out in the cold. Take warm clothes .
Shebeen Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Chris Fisher ran a training event earlier this year, he's the map boffin. There must be compass instructionals on the world wide web I believe Glenn updated the narratives a bit. Back in 2009 a description may have been something like "turn right just after the pink house" and when you got there, all the houses were pink. So back then the map was the reliable source.I think Chris actually did the narratives too, but he definitely has improved the maps from what was used before. - they are very user friendly now. The narratives actually started from when David needed to give a bit more info to Xolani who didn't have a clue with the maps(2006 i think). so they've come through some iterations, and the quoted distances were wildly temperamental in my day! We've hibernated it a bit for now, but were running AR races in the western cape as www.wcad.co.za - best map training ever is to actually do navigation races (same thing for navchallenge - http://raceinterface.co.za/our-events/the-navchallenge/). otherwise orienteering is still a good run at www.penoc.org.za - some in grabouw will be in your area. Quite a few events up in gauteng for those up there. otherwise some good resources here - http://www.ar.co.za/articles/
dirtrider Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Maybe I am not really qualified to give Navigational advice but a few things that I have learned . I had separate holders for maps and the naratives and naratives was on top of map board . Mistake , if you not going to put naratives on your maps then make sure you rather use the maps . And this advice was given to me by one of the racers , the MAPS never lie . Look around , staring at your trip computer all the time will get you lost . Not all trip meters are equal . Left is on the other side of right . Apparently when the map said left , I went right . Do those Nav courses !!
Marnitz Nienaber Posted August 17, 2015 Author Posted August 17, 2015 I think I will be fine putting the distances, narratives and map together, but I fear tricky situations where you have to use a compass ect. I don't want to get lost and sleep out in the cold. Lots of place to sleep out.......
The Crazy German Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 Maps don't lie, narratives vary but are quite good. Use both paste the appropriate section of narratives on your map(in general there is enough free space to do so). Riding direction up for maps and text) works better. Print maps in A3 colour. Use an A4 map board preferably elevated rotating is a bonus, if its a bit higher then you handlebars reading is a lot easier on the go and it leaves your handlbars free for linghts and other crap. Follow on you map where you are constantly its a lot more effective then going to wonder where am I after 10km. They say measure twice cut onse, I say check map three times pedal once. A map check takes a couple of sec a navigation mistakes is counted in bunches of minutes and can cost you hours. When in doubt recheck.
johannrissik Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 Maps don't lie, narratives vary but are quite good. Use both paste the appropriate section of narratives on your map(in general there is enough free space to do so). Riding direction up for maps and text) works better. Print maps in A3 colour. Use an A4 map board preferably elevated rotating is a bonus, if its a bit higher then you handlebars reading is a lot easier on the go and it leaves your handlbars free for linghts and other crap. Follow on you map where you are constantly its a lot more effective then going to wonder where am I after 10km. They say measure twice cut onse, I say check map three times pedal once. A map check takes a couple of sec a navigation mistakes is counted in bunches of minutes and can cost you hours. When in doubt recheck.
johannrissik Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 Maps don't lie, narratives vary but are quite good. Use both paste the appropriate section of narratives on your map(in general there is enough free space to do so). Riding direction up for maps and text) works better. Print maps in A3 colour. Use an A4 map board preferably elevated rotating is a bonus, if its a bit higher then you handlebars reading is a lot easier on the go and it leaves your handlbars free for linghts and other crap. Follow on you map where you are constantly its a lot more effective then going to wonder where am I after 10km. They say measure twice cut onse, I say check map three times pedal once. A map check takes a couple of sec a navigation mistakes is counted in bunches of minutes and can cost you hours. When in doubt recheck.
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