scuzzy Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Can anybody advise the best soapy water for lubing the frame and beads? I've read that dishwasher liquid is not the best, maybe some bike wash soap with water? Any other ideas?
raptor-22 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 sunlight dish washing liquid. but it has to be Sunlight. Nothing else will work.Add half a bottle of moisturizer to soften the tyre and you good to go
fanievb Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Groen sunlight Spray onto the bead/tire. For really hardegat tires, use a soft bristle brush to foam the soap up properly, don't know why, but it works
Pete the Pirate Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I have found more often than not that having your rim tape set up properly is 90% of the battle won. Some rims are better than others for seating tyres.I have probably only needed soapy water twice for over 50 Tubeless conversions that I have done. What tyres, what rims are you using?
scuzzy Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 Thanks for the input. Spez Fast Track tyre with ZTR Rims
ChUkKy Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Save some cash and get UST rims. In the long run:You save on sunlight soapFrustrationSwearing the rims mothers _oesTime and effortMore time to drink beerWasting money on rim tape Thats my point of view, I hate a mission.I wanna put my tyre on, sealant in, quickly pump my tyre and be done in 5 minutes
Trance Dance Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I've started using jaffa tape, works extremely well! Recently did four rims and seated all of them with no sealant and a floor pump. I added the sealant through the valve afterwards. Giant rims and onza/wtb tires.
Dorpie Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Sunlight Soap and water in a spray bottle. ZTR Rims are know for being a b!#ch to seat but from past experience a little elbow grease goes a long way. You can also leave your tyres in the sun for a while to soften up
MTBOnly Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 I used a floor pump to seat my Spez Fast Track tyres on Roval rims, not so sure about the ZTR combination, but the Fast Track tyres seated very easily. Used Sunlight before when seating Racing Ralphs on my Roval rims, also easily seated.
Paul Ruinaard Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Kleen Green works. Any soap works - there isn't a special soap in this and anyone who tells you there is, is talking BS. WE used to fit motorcycle tyres with a cake of green sunlight rubbed around the bead followed by a sponge. Worked a charm. It just makes the bead slippery and gives you a quick seal. Use your moms shampoo or your wife's face cleanser - it will all work.....
Paul Ruinaard Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Save some cash and get UST rims. In the long run:You save on sunlight soapFrustrationSwearing the rims mothers _oesTime and effortMore time to drink beerWasting money on rim tape Thats my point of view, I hate a mission.I wanna put my tyre on, sealant in, quickly pump my tyre and be done in 5 minutesBTW - ZTR have a bead on them for tubeless. Works a charm as well compared to older rims.
raptor-22 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 MOst of the TUbeles ready and Tubeless rims work well. NoTubes rims are among the best for retaining the tyre (but people need to read the fitting instructions and leave the wheels overnight before using them.). Mavic XM819 has been an excellent product but at nearly 200 heavier than the NoTubes Crests they're a bit weighty for XC. They are very strong though!
V12man Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Try putting sealant on the bead - works fine as a lubricant if you are quick.
NotSoBigBen Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Kleen Green works. Any soap works - there isn't a special soap in this and anyone who tells you there is, is talking BS. WE used to fit motorcycle tyres with a cake of green sunlight rubbed around the bead followed by a sponge. Worked a charm. It just makes the bead slippery and gives you a quick seal. Use your moms shampoo or your wife's face cleanser - it will all work..... Rather you than me using the wife's face cleanser .... nearly had a fit cause I used the 'extra hold' hair spray to fit grips .....
Pete the Pirate Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 ZTR are one of the easiest to seat. I have 3 sets.If these are a new set of tyres on an old rim, invest R 50.00 in new rim tape. Stretch it tight around the rim and do not force it down into the valley in the centre of the rim. Keep the tape stretched across this valley.Put the tyres on by hand (Do not use levers as they easily damage the tape)Remove the core from the valve. Pop the tyres on using a compressor (easiest method)Let the tyres deflate. Add sealant. Inset the core. Pump and Play
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