Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Jackes]

Nike is by far her most comfortable yet, but the clever guys recon she is going to bugger herself up with the marathon up to comrades distances.  As she pronates (and is unstable in the process of doing so) and the nikes is too soft....  

 

She has wide feet and her toes is kinda crawl/hanging type, so there is few shoes that fits and does not bother or chafe her toes terribly,  

 

Now take the above and try and find a wide fit light stability shoe. 

 

Then there is the subject of sizing, on which every guy has a different (strong) opinion on what her size should be.    

 

Can it be this damm difficult to try and get her running painfree. 

Edited December 2, 2016 by Jackes

[SeaBee]

Oh I'm gonna get sooo klapped for this! 

 

Altra (and no, I have no ties!) does have a stability line. There, I said it.

 

Wide and comfy is what they're built around. BUT... the zero drop is not everybody's (in fact, very few people's) cup of tea. And I can imagine that it would be worse on road than trail. 

 

I do find my Saucony's to also have a much wider toe box than most - and I have Peregrine (trail) as well as the Triumph ISO2 and Kinvara5 for road. All of them feels good. Also maybe try New Balance - I am pretty sure they have stability line as well and I know they're known to be wide. When I started off I used their 1080's and it was a super shoe - just did not last as long as I hoped. 

[Jackes]

Oh I'm gonna get sooo klapped for this! 

 

Altra (and no, I have no ties!) does have a stability line. There, I said it.

 

Wide and comfy is what they're built around. BUT... the zero drop is not everybody's (in fact, very few people's) cup of tea. And I can imagine that it would be worse on road than trail. 

 

I do find my Saucony's to also have a much wider toe box than most - and I have Peregrine (trail) as well as the Triumph ISO2 and Kinvara5 for road. All of them feels good. Also maybe try New Balance - I am pretty sure they have stability line as well and I know they're known to be wide. When I started off I used their 1080's and it was a super shoe - just did not last as long as I hoped. 

 

- I hav'nt seen Altra?

- I hear a lot of good reviews first hand of the Peregrine

- The NB 860v7 is my next (and only hope at this stage) hope.  We'll go and try and get them.

- Our Local store guy that is helping us as best as he can, gave her a new pair of 1080's, wide fit, last weekend.  8 km's and a blister on her little toe like crazy.  Due to that stupid hard plastic on the sides.  I also looked at it at a stage and that plastic catches me on the inside of my foot as well.

 

This excersize is becoming expensive.

Edited December 2, 2016 by Jackes

[SeaBee]

Because Altra is zero drop, most stores don't keep it. I know of two in the entire Cape suburbs and Winelands area. Most people prefer the more traditional 10-12mm drop.

 

Will see if I still like my Peregrines after UTCT! 

[Rocket-Boy]

 Also maybe try New Balance - I am pretty sure they have stability line as well and I know they're known to be wide. When I started off I used their 1080's and it was a super shoe - just did not last as long as I hoped. 

New balance for some reason chew my toes up, my wife and two colleagues at work found the same thing with them. 

[Stretch]

my b in law runs in altra's  - he lives on a farm so predominantly trains on trail. They are very wide though...far too wide for me

['Kaze Pete]

My shoe journey, and quest for comfortable running shoes

 

Started with

Nike Voomera were very cushy shoes but allowed me to hurt my ankles badly. I run more than a 1000km in these

 

 

Unhappy shoes

New Balance 1080s (even the extra wide) were terrible shoes for me. Did about 200 terrible km in these.

Ascis (some or other cloud) were terrible shoes for me, felt like rigid boards tied to my feet. Ran in these once only, and was given my money back by the shoe shop.

 

Giving up on shoes

Running Sandals - Managed to get up to a 10km race at pace but the weirdness and all the "chats" with everybody became too much. They also allowed all my underlying niggles and aches&pains to come to the fore.

 

Innov8 F-lite 195 - I loved the slipper fit however it offered too little support for my impatience. I still have these, but don't really run in them (200km or less?)

 

Biokineticists 

Spent a fair amount of time, money and sweat to get rid of the niggles, aches & pains and transitioned back to more traditional shoes.

 

Happy shoes

Innov8 Road X 255 (3 arrow)  (Just over 800km)

Newton Gravitas (Over 1000km)

Innov8 Road X 233 (2 arrow)  <-- these were my VERY happy shoes! Slipper fit, even though a narrow shoe (Around 900km when the treadmill ripped one open when I moved too far to the side)

Innov8 Road X 220 (1 arrow) <- too little sole, left ankle feels like it is locking up (tight on the outside to the top)  afterwards, but it could be that I am just unfit right now. Unfortunately the toe-box lining catches on my toenails and sets my feet on fire during non-flat and non-short (5km) runs

 

Now I am looking for new shoes now  

 

Unfortunately, regular running shoes tend not to work for me as I am a forefoot striker who manage to do a mid-foot strike. I am also not willing to go to a heel to toe drop of more than 8mm (most shoes). I prefer a 4 to 6mm drop.

I am not keen on running on the new pillow-type fads (high stack heights - sorry Altra), as I want to feel some feedback from the ground.

 

I want to buy road shoes, as that is where the majority of my running in 2017 will be. I will buy a pair of trail running shoes later in 2017 as I have my eyes set on a mountain run later in the year.

 

So, who can recommend shoes (or know of any shoes) that fit these summarized parameters?

• 4-6 mm heel to toe drop
• low stack height 
• neutral, no support / control
• not too narrow
• low fit around ankle
• not too much "guarding" around toes

[Stretch]

 

 

 

So, who can recommend shoes (or know of any shoes) that fit these summarized parameters?

• 4-6 mm heel to toe drop
• low stack height 
• neutral, no support / control
• not too narrow
• low fit around ankle
• not too much "guarding" around toes

 

 

coach norrie was raving about the Puma Speed 100 the other day...might be a bit tight for you though

 

https://www.poobienaidoos.co.za/shop/puma-speed-100-r-ignite-mens/

['Kaze Pete]

coach norrie was raving about the Puma Speed 100 the other day...might be a bit tight for you though

 

https://www.poobienaidoos.co.za/shop/puma-speed-100-r-ignite-mens/

Heel to toe drop: 12mm [emoji30]

[usxorf]

So, who can recommend shoes (or know of any shoes) that fit these summarized parameters?

• 4-6 mm heel to toe drop
• low stack height
• neutral, no support / control
• not too narrow
• low fit around ankle
• not too much "guarding" around toes

Try altra instinct. The only box not ticked is the 4mm drop.

 

I'm so gatvol with my feet I've started cutting my shoes up to get them comfortable. I only get rid of the rigid heel counter (haglunds /achilles bursitis), but Google showed me other folk cutting holes in the toe box for better toe splay, a hacksaw and shoe glue to change drop /stack height.

 

After 6 different pairs of shoes not being what I need, Ima dala what I must. At the moment happy with the altra instinct and superior (minus heel cups).

 

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Edited December 3, 2016 by usxorf

[Stretch]

Heel to toe drop: 12mm [emoji30]

6mm as far as I see

[SeaBee]

Saucony Kinvara...? I am just waiting for the 8's to come out (runour has it early next year) to try and get some 7's on sale. 

 

Not all Altras are those HOKA type clown shoes. The Instinct has 24mm stack, 1mm higher than Kinvara heel - but obviously 5 higher than toe. The One is a bit lower - one or 2 mm. I insidently tried on a One yesterday, but the band over the toes kept pressing against my big toes - what a weird design! And then an Instinct... and  got the that... "Another pair?!" look when I got home.  Not planning on doing major distance in them, but will see how it goes. Suspecting this may end up replacing some other shoes and the Kinvara route above will leave me with them, Instinct and then the Triumph for long hauls.

Also suspect if I get settled, I'll think about something lower drop for long hauls after the Triumphs have expired - which is still a looong way off. Have though of the Innov-8, but not even fitted them once. Don't understand their numbering, naming and arrow standards to start off with...

[Mudsimus]

Im also looking at replacing my road shoes early in 2017, currently Im using NB 980 FM. 4mm drop. Great sole but dont like the uppers much. I keep on getting pressure points.

 

I'll most like go with the Salomon 2017 range. All my trail shoes are Salomon and I can do a 30km trail run out of the box without a single issue. The 2017 road shoes are very much improved on the quite firm 2016 range. From what I can see there is 2 options for 2017. Sonic with a 10mm drop and the Sonic Pro with 8.5mm. Both very light.

[Pulse]

I've never been able to get comfortable in the Salomon '16s.

Maybe I'll try the 2017s

[Mudsimus]

I've never been able to get comfortable in the Salomon '16s.

Maybe I'll try the 2017s

The 16s were great for quick 10s, maybe 21. It fits like a glove but the ride is a little hard.

[Pulse]

The 16s were great for quick 10s, maybe 21. It fits like a glove but the ride is a little hard.

Must agree with you... I can only manage 10ks in them comfortably.