edgarblount Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Then they should arrange an event that traverses that area...Hey that can be a lekke ride. Do a Juma and then ride to Pretoors and do a Puma. I'll enter the JumaPuma 2016 event.
Ttocs Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Best R400 i have spent entering a race. Have a look at all the work they have done in and around the parks and the spruit and maybe you will stop complaining. Haters will hate
rouxtjie Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Hey that can be a lekke ride. Do a Juma and then ride to Pretoors and do a Puma. I'll enter the JumaPuma 2016 event.sounds great...maybe even a stage race... Juma2Puma
PygaSchmyga Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 ...i don't even know where to start. what better way to clean up "joburg's filth" than to make a bike race through it. trails are built, bridges appear, safe road crossings (in storm water culverts) are made accessible. People become aware of alternative riding routes for weekends which boosts safety in numbers etc. The spruit fairies are doing great work (by engaging with the homeless locals living on the trails) to maintain large sections of the spruit which is the reason why it is a lot cleaner, safer and more fun to ride than it was 5 years ago. I prefer a clean and safe spruit on my doorstep than to spend my money on trails that are 50km and an hour's drive away on some dude's private farm. I don't live in Jozi anymore, but each time I go there I take my bike along for the nice jumps and drops that appeared over the last two years. In a different way the "filth of joburg" makes for better riding than a lot of the trails that I can do up here on the pristine Limpopo river bank where I live now. PS, there aren't a lot of races on the calendar that are technically challenging and make you go "Whooohhh" with a massive smile on your face every now and then, so your comment about it just being a crap race and "peppered with nonsensical injury opportunities" is just unfair. If you can ride a bike properly, you can do Juma safely, if you can't, then its time for those training wheels. disclaimer: there have been some very unfortunate incidents in the slippery culvert sections last year where hubbers amongst others had taken falls with very bad consequences and I am not trying to be unsensitive here... it is just that Juma isn't that dangerous when riding within your limits and I'm sure they would have done something about those sections for 2015.I agree with everything you say about the spruit, and I love the spruit and the awesome work the fairies do. The Juma route last year included a section of the spruit, but I think it is wrong to think that the Juma and the spruit are the same thing. You correctly point out that loads of riders got badly hurt last year, mostly riding in storm drains, completely unlit, littered with obstacles that you could not see. The non-spruit sections included the landfill near Meliville koppies, and the particularly disgusting walking track along the M1. Not really that special. The best part of the Juma IS the spruit, which we all ride regularly, and which lives and breathes independently of the Juma. I take nothing away from the improvements to the spruit which they have contributed, but the spruit would be there, with or without Juma. As an overall race and route, it sucked eggs last year, and it is fair to compare to other weekend events, especially given the ticket price. I disagree that the Juma was technical, unless by technical you mean developing owl-like bat vision to see in the dark to avoid e coli infested obstacles, with dozens of blind riders fishing around in the black
edgarblount Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Moangatte... Moangatte everywhere...!Baaisikilist, I see what you mean... I agree with everything you say about the spruit, and I love the spruit and the awesome work the fairies do. The Juma route last year included a section of the spruit, but I think it is wrong to think that the Juma and the spruit are the same thing. You correctly point out that loads of riders got badly hurt last year, mostly riding in storm drains, completely unlit, littered with obstacles that you could not see. The non-spruit sections included the landfill near Meliville koppies, and the particularly disgusting walking track along the M1. Not really that special. The best part of the Juma IS the spruit, which we all ride regularly, and which lives and breathes independently of the Juma. I take nothing away from the improvements to the spruit which they have contributed, but the spruit would be there, with or without Juma. As an overall race and route, it sucked eggs last year, and it is fair to compare to other weekend events, especially given the ticket price. I disagree that the Juma was technical, unless by technical you mean developing owl-like bat vision to see in the dark to avoid e coli infested obstacles, with dozens of blind riders fishing around in the black
Skubarra Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I sure as hell will not enter this thing again. When compared to the awesome race calendar events we have every weekend, this race is just crap. A tour of Joburg's filth and decay, peppered with gratuitous and nonsensical injury opportunities. For R400. Fool me once, but no more! As an overall race and route, it sucked eggs last year, and it is fair to compare to other weekend events, especially given the ticket price. I don't understand - why did you enter again if last year sucked so much and there are so many better cheaper options?
PygaSchmyga Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Baaisikilist, I see what you mean... if I love spruit, and moan about Juma, do they cancel each other out? like -1+1?
PygaSchmyga Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I don't understand - why did you enter again if last year sucked so much and there are so many better cheaper options? slow learner? Who knows. A life of bad decisions has led me to this point, so I suppose I must just suffer! EDIT: But now I am definitely sure I may not enter ever again
Spez247 Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I recently heard the Joburg Council had taken Juma to task, over the damage caused by the scaffolding being forced under a few of the street overpasses. Hope Hollard had insurance in place for such a claim. I have kept my race entry for next year, in place. Hope they can make it happen. I enjoy the technical riding that an urban environment presents. I did obstacles last year on my bike, I had never attempted, and probably will never again be able to, outside of this event.The Spruit is all the better for it.
edgarblount Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 if I love spruit, and moan about Juma, do they cancel each other out? like -1+1?No, it's more like which still makes you a "moangat".
Riaan H Posted September 30, 2015 Author Posted September 30, 2015 I was just wondering if anybody had in fact received their refunds, ie, is it busy happening, I know it can take time. I was really looking forward to the race and would have ridden if the weather didn't ruin it. I will however not enter again due to the relatively high cost combined with the likelyhood of weather putting a stop to it yet again.
PygaSchmyga Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 No, it's more like http://d3u536mexp8na1.cloudfront.net/forum/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifmeq.PNG which still makes you a "moangat". blixem!! was I just schooled?
Enduro_Jakes Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 What guarantee is there the event will happen next year? Just wondering .....What guarantee is there that you will live through the night? Or even survive long enough to enter next year? You clearly missed the part about the freak weather that caused the cancellation of the JUMA? No one saw that coming, not even the weather services (then again, that is not saying much ) The organisers did everything possible to make the event happen and nature said no. So if nature permits, there will be one next year. And the dates they have chosen mean there is far less chance of this happening again.
Enduro_Jakes Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 If this unfortunate turn of events means more people with your attitude aren't riding next year... Hope I win one of the 5 GoPro's Get in line buddy... one of em are MINE!
C90 Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 ...i don't even know where to start. what better way to clean up "joburg's filth" than to make a bike race through it. trails are built, bridges appear, safe road crossings (in storm water culverts) are made accessible. People become aware of alternative riding routes for weekends which boosts safety in numbers etc. The spruit fairies are doing great work (by engaging with the homeless locals living on the trails) to maintain large sections of the spruit which is the reason why it is a lot cleaner, safer and more fun to ride than it was 5 years ago. I prefer a clean and safe spruit on my doorstep than to spend my money on trails that are 50km and an hour's drive away on some dude's private farm. I don't live in Jozi anymore, but each time I go there I take my bike along for the nice jumps and drops that appeared over the last two years. In a different way the "filth of joburg" makes for better riding than a lot of the trails that I can do up here on the pristine Limpopo river bank where I live now. PS, there aren't a lot of races on the calendar that are technically challenging and make you go "Whooohhh" with a massive smile on your face every now and then, so your comment about it just being a crap race and "peppered with nonsensical injury opportunities" is just unfair. If you can ride a bike properly, you can do Juma safely, if you can't, then its time for those training wheels. disclaimer: there have been some very unfortunate incidents in the slippery culvert sections last year where hubbers amongst others had taken falls with very bad consequences and I am not trying to be unsensitive here... it is just that Juma isn't that dangerous when riding within your limits and I'm sure they would have done something about those sections for 2015. I agree wholeheartedly to this
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