eccc whippet Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 SA roads are way too dangerous to cycle on everybody should know this by now. Agree with Geoff, just because many people do something does not make it right or legal. Blue signed roads, or Freeways, (regardless of N, M, R) is a no go for cyclistsGreen signed roads, again regardless of N, M, R can be used However, this does not take away from the fact that this is extremely sad and my condolences to the families and friends that are left to pick up the pieces.let me rather just bite my tongue.
Bateleur1 Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 So lets see what happens ... https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/i-was-not-drunk-motorist-charged-with-killing-two-cyclists-20180115
Patchelicious Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 I have a feeling that this guy is going to get off. From a guilty plea to claiming innocence. I hope this guy coward goes down.
bikebloke Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 So lets see what happens ... https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/i-was-not-drunk-motorist-charged-with-killing-two-cyclists-20180115 dont hold your breath on this one
Bateleur1 Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 dont hold your breath on this one I am not. Drunk driving charges do not have a good track record in SA courts.
Lurch the stalker Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 So lets see what happens ... https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/i-was-not-drunk-motorist-charged-with-killing-two-cyclists-20180115I saw that article nonsense just now.Just worming out of accountability in my opinion.
Edition 507 Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 Very sad, Jared Dwyer was planning a double Everest and I was keen to see him succeed. And then their lives are tragically cut short!
Halfdoesyn Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 "and I decided that I could not plead guilty to something in respect of which I was not guilty despite the advice of my lawyers" You killed 2 people. You were drunk and you were speeding according to a witness. How can you not be guilty?
Sepia Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 I have a feeling that this guy is going to get off. From a guilty plea to claiming innocence. I hope this guy coward goes down. I sincerely hope this coward meets Pappie and friends soon but I am afraid he will walk away from this. I cannot believe a lawyer would turn this around like this. Just too terrible to believe. And as for the plumber .......
Popit Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 Please excuse my ignorance on this matter , maybe a legal expert can clarify ... Had this guy not agreed to a plea bargain ????How can he then change that to a not guilty plea ?? Surely to accept a plea bargain he had to admit guilt ?? Hopefully the judge can see through this BS ..... Strenght to the families and friends of the cyclists .
GrahamS2 Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 Please excuse my ignorance on this matter , maybe a legal expert can clarify ... Had this guy not agreed to a plea bargain ????How can he then change that to a not guilty plea ?? Surely to accept a plea bargain he had to admit guilt ?? Hopefully the judge can see through this BS ..... Strenght to the families and friends of the cyclists .He changed his mind before admission so the plea bargain falls away. Then he fired his lawyer and found a new guy to look for ways out. Unfortunately, the main eye witness has agreed that the impact was actually in the slow lane of the M4, not the yellow lane. That alone will not bode well for nailing this clown.
Lurch the stalker Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 Unfortunately, the main eye witness has agreed that the impact was actually in the slow lane of the M4, not the yellow lane. That alone will not bode well for nailing this clown.According to that article he didn't see the impact because "he lost sight of them for a few seconds" and then they say, "While he initially said that the cyclists were both in the emergency lane, after being shown pictures of the scene by Pitman, he conceded that they were in the left hand lane." Obviously I wasn't there, but to me, that sounds like his words getting twisted which will probably get this guy off.I am sure I'm not the only one who has been hit by a car, but I sure didn't land up in the same lane I had been riding in, so to me saying pictures of the scene show them in the slow lane doesn't rule out the possibility they were hit in the emergency lane. Heck, when I was in a motorcycle accident, I landed up about two and a half lanes over in a lane heading the opposite direction.
gogo@ Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 I truly hope the NPA sets a Rottweiler on this guy in court.
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