SRAM introduces 12-speed Eagle drivetrains

[rouxtjie]

  On 3/29/2016 at 10:37 AM, V12man said:

AND - stronger shifts if it's anything like DI2 - that motor puts more force on the DR than the cable can for muddy/dirty conditions etc.

is die kool die sous werd?

[V12man]

  On 3/29/2016 at 11:26 AM, rouxtjie said:

is die kool die sous werd?

I don't know - on a road bike - yes - makes cool buzzing noises.... and the auto alignment is pretty cool..

 

I have only ever ridden once in conditions so bad the rear would not shift - would it have worked - no idea  -would I have gone faster if it had shifted - no idea - probably not.... would I have cursed less - probably not....

 

I would say in Gauteng conditions, probably not worth the extra spend - perhaps in the WC or NZ it might be - this does not of course stop me wanting it....

[rouxtjie]

  On 3/29/2016 at 11:43 AM, V12man said:

I don't know - on a road bike - yes - makes cool buzzing noises.... and the auto alignment is pretty cool..

 

I have only ever ridden once in conditions so bad the rear would not shift - would it have worked - no idea  -would I have gone faster if it had shifted - no idea - probably not.... would I have cursed less - probably not....

 

I would say in Gauteng conditions, probably not worth the extra spend - perhaps in the WC or NZ it might be - this does not of course stop me wanting it....

fo sure...roadbike major advantage

 

On a mtb, I think the tech needs to mature a bit more

[V12man]

  On 3/29/2016 at 11:49 AM, rouxtjie said:

fo sure...roadbike major advantage

 

On a mtb, I think the tech needs to mature a bit more

True - has to go wireless.... then I am in.....

 

Then we just need fly by wireless brakes too....

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

  On 3/29/2016 at 11:53 AM, V12man said:

True - has to go wireless.... then I am in.....

 

Then we just need fly by wireless brakes too....

eek. No thanks. I'd prefer an interface where I can feel how much pressure I'm putting on to the brakes..

[Hairy]

  On 3/29/2016 at 11:53 AM, V12man said:

True - has to go wireless.... then I am in.....

 

Then we just need fly by wireless brakes too....

what, no more bleeding the brakes, auto warning before the pads are close to wear limit, effective pad/contact adjustment that trims as the pads wear out ..... so much of goodness.

[V12man]

  On 3/29/2016 at 12:00 PM, Myles Mayhew said:

eek. No thanks. I'd prefer an interface where I can feel how much pressure I'm putting on to the brakes..

And yet you are happy driving a merc/bmw/porsche etc with this kind of tech in place?

 

It was just a tounge in cheek comment - so ignore it.... I don't think they will want to do this on a bike because of the weight added for all the pumps etc needed - still - in a car you don't even notice it.

[V12man]

  On 3/29/2016 at 12:03 PM, Hairy said:

what, no more bleeding the brakes, auto warning before the pads are close to wear limit, effective pad/contact adjustment that trims as the pads wear out ..... so much of goodness.

What about ABS? seems to me a few people could get benefit out of that.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

  On 3/29/2016 at 12:06 PM, V12man said:

What about ABS? seems to me a few people could get benefit out of that.

BRAKING BUMPS!!! 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

  On 3/29/2016 at 12:05 PM, V12man said:

And yet you are happy driving a merc/bmw/porsche etc with this kind of tech in place?

 

It was just a tounge in cheek comment - so ignore it.... I don't think they will want to do this on a bike because of the weight added for all the pumps etc needed - still - in a car you don't even notice it.

very true... 

[Hairy]

  On 3/29/2016 at 12:05 PM, V12man said:

And yet you are happy driving a merc/bmw/porsche etc with this kind of tech in place?

 

It was just a tounge in cheek comment - so ignore it.... I don't think they will want to do this on a bike because of the weight added for all the pumps etc needed - still - in a car you don't even notice it.

Fixed

[Lefty V]

point of order madam speaker:

abs is not fly by wireless.. it is not even fly by wire...

[V12man]

  On 3/29/2016 at 12:16 PM, Lefty V said:

point of order madam speaker:

abs is not fly by wireless.. it is not even fly by wire...

Wheel speed sensors don't have wires?

 

No wheel speed sensor wire = no ABS... but I am now taking my hat and coat and running....

[Halfdoesyn]

  On 3/29/2016 at 12:19 PM, V12man said:

Wheel speed sensors don't have wires?

 

No wheel speed sensor wire = no ABS... but I am now taking my hat and coat and running....

 

<OT>

 

Sensors are wired, driver control isn't. It's a direct mechanical/hydraulic connection - albeit assisted and sometimes modulated.

 

</OT>

[V12man]

  On 3/29/2016 at 12:41 PM, Halfdoesyn said:

<OT>

 

Sensors are wired, driver control isn't. It's a direct mechanical/hydraulic connection - albeit assisted and sometimes modulated.

 

</OT>

How about in an Infiniti Q50's steering?

 

Note to self - this is a bicycle forum.... :ph34r:

[Halfdoesyn]

  On 3/29/2016 at 1:02 PM, V12man said:

How about in an Infiniti Q50's steering?

 

Note to self - this is a bicycle forum.... :ph34r:

 

Apparently steering is not as important as braking...