slickandtyred Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Oh just to add to my previous post, I bought a Ryder light from CWC for R450 about 2 or 3 years ago, still using the same battery... Claimed lumens = 1000 Does it provide the claimed lumens, I have no idea, but I can tell you is damn bright and the proof is one morning, I had brights flashed at me from an oncoming vehicle... Bright enough for me and a very good investment at R450Which model?
ZakAttak Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Which model?Good question, I have no idea... looks like this... Has 3 settings, high beam, low beam and flash...
Brickleberry Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 My Ryder is currently lighting up my whole house on its lowest setting due to a power cut. And lasts 20 hours on this setting. Pretty decent for a grand
droo Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 I was using a LED Lenser M7R torch as a bike light. It has a zoom head and powered by 1 x 18650 rechargeable battery. It is rated 400lm on max. On wide it is good enough for singletrack at fair pace but not as fast as during daytime. On zoom it is a narrow beam searchlight good for 200m plus - I use it this way on tar. Recharging happens by USB so it is very convenient. You can use the supplied charger or a 12V/USB car charger or your PC. Cost was about R1300 when I got it last year. Excellent light but for cycling use the simple handlebar clamp lets it down. The plastic warps over time and the light sometimes shifts on bumpy track. Recently bought a Extremelights Endurance light. Rated about 2000lm on max. and I was underwhelmed by the brightness. It did not appear significantly brighter than my M7R but the spread of light is better, very even with a nice spread of soft light out wide and a good length of beam all at the same time. M7R can only do one or the other but not both at same time. Battery has 4x 18650 cells and lasts much longer than the M7R but USB charging is not an option. Overall I am quite happy with the Endurance light even though the lumen rating may not be calibrated on the same scale as LED Lenser products. It fits well, battery pack is well made. Bright enough for a technical night ride at reasonable pace but you'll need two of them or a supplementary helmet mounted light if you want to go all-out fast on technical sigletrack at night. The light head is well made too. It gets a bit warm on max. so I normally ride it on the middle setting switching to maximum only when the trail gets fast or technical. The clamp is a bit too tight to fit on the fattest part of my bar right alongside my stem so it goes further out but it does not budge once set up. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Beam pattern is where it's at. The cheap lights are usually a focussed beam to make them appear brighter, whereas the decent ones have a good spread which allows you to see more than what your bars are pointed directly at. The one will win parking lot pissing contests, the other will actually be useful on the trail.
Meezo Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Beam pattern is where it's at. The cheap lights are usually a focussed beam to make them appear brighter, whereas the decent ones have a good spread which allows you to see more than what your bars are pointed directly at. The one will win parking lot pissing contests, the other will actually be useful on the trail. really? cheapies treating me well for well over 4 years... i don't like pissing in parking lots anyway! but then again, what do i know about riding the trail. 4 years of commuting winters is shmuck
JXV Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Beam pattern is where it's at. The cheap lights are usually a focussed beam to make them appear brighter, whereas the decent ones have a good spread which allows you to see more than what your bars are pointed directly at. The one will win parking lot pissing contests, the other will actually be useful on the trail.The focusable beam of that M7R makes it useable for both and easy to adjust mid ride. On the wide setting it is actually brighter out wide than my Extremelights Endurance light but then the centre part of the beam does not throw as far ahead. M7R or the cheaper AAA powered M7 are very viable alternatives with premium quality build for a lower price price - only let down by the handlebar bracket. Overall I prefer the Extremelights Endurance but not by as much as I thought I would. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Meezo Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 to me its marginal gains in performance, by all means the extremely marginally better(quality and "performance", maybe reliability), but compared to price vs the "cheapies" i'd choose the cheapies all the time... but hey i am also riding cheapy Chinese carbon frames for almost 5 years now with not an issue to talk of..
Sidmouth Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 I have bought a few of these cheap one on Ebay, its a bit hit and miss, generally the batteries don't last long and sometimes the light itself breaks, like on the 2nd or 3rd time out, it can be that bad.The first light I bought was from CWC about 3 years ago and it is still better than all the cheap ebays ones.And believe me when they say 2000 LUMENS on Ebays its more like 500 I think its worth paying a bit more and getting a good one
Meezo Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 I have bought a few of these cheap one on Ebay, its a bit hit and miss, generally the batteries don't last long and sometimes the light itself breaks, like on the 2nd or 3rd time out, it can be that bad.The first light I bought was from CWC about 3 years ago and it is still better than all the cheap ebays ones.And believe me when they say 2000 LUMENS on Ebays its more like 500 I think its worth paying a bit more and getting a good one uhm, yes like you said its a hit and miss, the light in question(if it is the one i'm thinking about) i bought the exact same one off dx still going strong
Martin PJ Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Beam pattern is where it's at. The cheap lights are usually a focussed beam to make them appear brighter, whereas the decent ones have a good spread which allows you to see more than what your bars are pointed directly at. The one will win parking lot pissing contests, the other will actually be useful on the trail. These are two of my lights, I think they are pretty much identical to some of the more expensive lights. Batteries are a little inferior. They are unbranded, but pretty bright and wide beam.
Eddy Gordo Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 I have bought nothing but the cheap ones, and they were all very wide angle beams!! Chinese products are chinese products, it dont matter how its labelled.I would like to see stuff like this made locally. We have all the resouces so why not make it here. Proudly south african indeed
Sidmouth Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 I think they are all made in China,just branded differently with better QC and a agent localy if you have issues,
Mongoose! Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 I just bought a XP3 endurance light from Extreme lightsCost me R2295 It is a nice light, but way over priced Maybe my expectations were too high, comparing to my $18 Chinese light from Alliexpress
Sidmouth Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 R2295, ok that's over the top, just get a six pack of chinese lights, still cheaper and even if the batteries don't last as long, just replace, all of them dies eventually
Shebeen Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 I have bought nothing but the cheap ones, and they were all very wide angle beams!! Chinese products are chinese products, it dont matter how its labelled.I would like to see stuff like this made locally. We have all the resouces so why not make it here. Proudly south african indeedsimple question of economics....how much more of a premium are you prepared to pay for a local product - because it will cost considerably more.
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