Chavo Posted October 4, 2016 Share Even so, the question remains as to why the buyer took 6 months to figure his issue with the wheels out ... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the downhill Posted October 4, 2016 Share I (aka the seller) feel terrible to be accused of something like this......It was (and never ever will be) my intention to sell something faulty/broken/damaged to a fellow hubber..SPEAK TO THE HUBBERS WHO HAVE RATED ME and many others who have not rated me... If that ever is the case I will make it very clear in my add which I have done in the past so as to bring it to the buyers attention........On one occassion a fellow hubber came back to me the next day after buying a Campag Cluster from me....He said the ratio was not what he had wanted/needed......I refunded him....1 DAY LATER,...... this is ALMOST 7 MONTHS LATER??????....... BTW...went quiet coz I need to sort out month end......... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJ Posted October 4, 2016 Share Would also like to know why the original ad has a watermark for an Italian/French "Gumtree" style website? Did you not use a photo you took yourself? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDF Posted October 4, 2016 Share Even so, the question remains as to why the buyer took 6 months to figure his issue with the wheels out ...Quite probable that he saw them and thought they were a bargain for his planned build. Bought them, stashed them in the shed and started the build 6 months later. Not sure why the seller did not post pics of the actual wheels he was selling. Maybe he can shed some light on that. Can be that he decided to sell them while sitting at his desk and didn't have pics to hand so he Googled a set and borrowed that pic. If it was me I would have inspected the wheels properly before I took them or live with the consequences if they turn out to not be what I thought. School fees. If I were the buyer I would drop it. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi Pollard Posted October 4, 2016 Share Would also like to know why the original ad has a watermark for an Italian/French "Gumtree" style website? Did you not use a photo you took yourself?I have also done this in the past, but I do put a disclaimer on the ad stating that I will update the photo as soon as get home or whatever the situation is. I will never use a google photo and then state that it is an actual photo of the item I am selling. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDF Posted October 4, 2016 Share I (aka the seller) feel terrible to be accused of something like this......It was (and never ever will be) my intention to sell something faulty/broken/damaged to a fellow hubber..SPEAK TO THE HUBBERS WHO HAVE RATED ME and many others who have not rated me... If that ever is the case I will make it very clear in my add which I have done in the past so as to bring it to the buyers attention........On one occassion a fellow hubber came back to me the next day after buying a Campag Cluster from me....He said the ratio was not what he had wanted/needed......I refunded him....1 DAY LATER,...... this is ALMOST 7 MONTHS LATER??????....... BTW...went quiet coz I need to sort out month end.........I think the picture has raised some eyebrows...Mine being a pair of them. Maybe clear that up quickly. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 4, 2016 Share I (aka the seller) feel terrible to be accused of something like this......It was (and never ever will be) my intention to sell something faulty/broken/damaged to a fellow hubber..SPEAK TO THE HUBBERS WHO HAVE RATED ME and many others who have not rated me... If that ever is the case I will make it very clear in my add which I have done in the past so as to bring it to the buyers attention........On one occassion a fellow hubber came back to me the next day after buying a Campag Cluster from me....He said the ratio was not what he had wanted/needed......I refunded him....1 DAY LATER,...... this is ALMOST 7 MONTHS LATER??????....... BTW...went quiet coz I need to sort out month end......... Ok, but was the photo in the advert the actual photo of the wheels? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 4, 2016 Share I (aka the seller) feel terrible to be accused of something like this......It was (and never ever will be) my intention to sell something faulty/broken/damaged to a fellow hubber..SPEAK TO THE HUBBERS WHO HAVE RATED ME and many others who have not rated me... If that ever is the case I will make it very clear in my add which I have done in the past so as to bring it to the buyers attention........On one occassion a fellow hubber came back to me the next day after buying a Campag Cluster from me....He said the ratio was not what he had wanted/needed......I refunded him....1 DAY LATER,...... this is ALMOST 7 MONTHS LATER??????....... BTW...went quiet coz I need to sort out month end......... Just remember you came to the hub jury... Live by the sword, die by the sword. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavo Posted October 4, 2016 Share I (aka the seller) feel terrible to be accused of something like this......It was (and never ever will be) my intention to sell something faulty/broken/damaged to a fellow hubber..SPEAK TO THE HUBBERS WHO HAVE RATED ME and many others who have not rated me... If that ever is the case I will make it very clear in my add which I have done in the past so as to bring it to the buyers attention........On one occassion a fellow hubber came back to me the next day after buying a Campag Cluster from me....He said the ratio was not what he had wanted/needed......I refunded him....1 DAY LATER,...... this is ALMOST 7 MONTHS LATER??????....... BTW...went quiet coz I need to sort out month end.........KOTD, I am on your side with this. The buyer paid his school fees in some form or another and should move on. He has no right to raise issue 6 months later as far as I'm concerned. It has been discussed at length in other threads of the value of the rating system as it remains one of the only ways to sift through the bad sellers on this site (apart from the Rouxjie rule of course). If we start to doubt the rating system, albeit that it is not obligatory to complete following a transaction, then it would seem we would play roulette every time we pursue a purchase through the classifieds. I like to think that transacting with a rated seller holds some sort of weight Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJ Posted October 4, 2016 Share Gotta be honest here... I'm starting to smell something fishy. MY opinion... the wheels were not the wheels in the photo. Chances are the OP never even noticed that there was a difference in the wheels. In a hurry got a photo from the interwebs for whatever the stickers said and sold the wheels. Sounds like it was dark when the transaction was made so everything kinda slipped through the cracks. Yeah, the buyer did sit on his hands to start using the wheels (be that the truth or not)... but ja... I'd like to know where that picture came from and if THOSE were the wheels. I'm thinking not... I saw now that if you upload a photo to Tutti.ch it puts a watermark on. So why would a seller try sell wheels to people in Italy? I think there is quite a bit of misunderstanding here, but if the picture wasn't real, that does take us back to misrepresentation. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted October 4, 2016 Share Just remember you came to the hub jury... Live by the sword, die by the sword.He is. The buyer is on balance in the wrong here.I am pretty confident that is the Jury's verdict supports that. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyB Posted October 4, 2016 Share But the Big Question here is? Do you have a Instagram acc that we can have a look at?And do you like taking selfies ? Cheeky b@stard !! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 4, 2016 Share Gotta be honest here... I'm starting to smell something fishy. MY opinion... the wheels were not the wheels in the photo. Chances are the OP never even noticed that there was a difference in the wheels. In a hurry got a photo from the interwebs for whatever the stickers said and sold the wheels. Sounds like it was dark when the transaction was made so everything kinda slipped through the cracks. Yeah, the buyer did sit on his hands to start using the wheels (be that the truth or not)... but ja... I'd like to know where that picture came from and if THOSE were the wheels. I'm thinking not... I saw now that if you upload a photo to Tutti.ch it puts a watermark on. So why would a seller try sell wheels to people in Italy? I think there is quite a bit of misunderstanding here, but if the picture wasn't real, that does take us back to misrepresentation. Maybe if he posted them, not if they met and exchanged the goods. If you dont check what you pay for, sorry for you. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavo Posted October 4, 2016 Share He wouldn't be the first seller to not use his own photos in the ad. Surely if you inspect the item you want in person you can then decide whether the seller and items are genuine or not? If the wheels were shipped across country then maybe the use of alternative pics would be more problematic Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 4, 2016 Share He is. The buyer is on balance in the wrong here.I am pretty confident that is the Jury's verdict supports that. I cannot wait for sentencing! Like when Dips was sentenced to use CAPS LOCKS FOR THREE YEARS.... i am so glad thats over Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJ Posted October 4, 2016 Share A product currently for sale on the overseas "Gumtree" style website. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/163338-refund-for-wheels/page/16/#findComment-2979990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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