Showtime Posted October 5, 2016 Share I also have the Nimbus and they are ok but when I rotate back into my Nike Free Flyknits it feels like I'm home again. The pace I settle into without looking at the Garmin is always 30s/km faster in the frees. So while the whole "barefoot running" thing didn't gain traction it certainly works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-Boy Posted October 5, 2016 Share what mileage are you getting? I run with GT 2000 but I'm looking for something lighter.GT2000 is a stability shoe so they are heavier than others.I have used them and they work well for me but are a bit heavy like you say.Quite interested in the Hoka one one's seem be properly lightweight but also offer good cushion and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-Boy Posted October 5, 2016 Share I also have the Nimbus and they are ok but when I rotate back into my Nike Free Flyknits it feels like I'm home again. The pace I settle into without looking at the Garmin is always 30s/km faster in the frees. So while the whole "barefoot running" thing didn't gain traction it certainly works for me. Do you find that there is a limited distance you can do in the lower drop shoes?I have a pair of max stability/max cushion shoes for stuff over 10k and use Newton super minimal for less than 10k stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime Posted October 5, 2016 Share Do you find that there is a limited distance you can do in the lower drop shoes?I have a pair of max stability/max cushion shoes for stuff over 10k and use Newton super minimal for less than 10k stuff. I also stick to 10k or less. I haven't tried anything further yet, just playing it safe I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted October 5, 2016 Share after 5 solid years of GT2000's I am moving away from stability and stiff asics and moving towards neutral and flexible. Brookes launch or Brookes Ghost will easily do high mileage as will Nike Zoom's or adidas Boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackes Posted October 5, 2016 Share The Brooks Ghost 9's feel like a really nice shoe, I'm around 200km's in with them now. I fitted the Launch 3's and will ad them for the races in the near future. Even the Glycerin felt fantastic. Also look at Saucony's. The asics cumulus for myself and the nimbus for my wife did nothing for us, we did not like them. Our nike pegasus and vomero's that is to soft for longer distances and to crap according to most experts were WAY nicer than the asics in our books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanievb Posted October 5, 2016 Share GT2000 is a stability shoe so they are heavier than others.I have used them and they work well for me but are a bit heavy like you say.Quite interested in the Hoka one one's seem be properly lightweight but also offer good cushion and support. I've tried other stability shoes (GT 1000, Nike Lunar) and they don't work for me. Keen on trying the noosa, but If i need to spend 2k on a pair they must last, my GT 2000 lasts about 700-800km Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOldGuy Posted October 5, 2016 Share The Brooks Ghost 9's feel like a really nice shoe, I'm around 200km's in with them now. I fitted the Launch 3's and will ad them for the races in the near future. Even the Glycerin felt fantastic. Also look at Saucony's. The asics cumulus for myself and the nimbus for my wife did nothing for us, we did not like them. Our nike pegasus and vomero's that is to soft for longer distances and to crap according to most experts were WAY nicer than the asics in our books.I tend to agree, I have been a regular runner for over 40 years, okay I know....I am old, but in that time I have learnt a few things, the first been dont buy solely by Brand. Just because your mate like Reeboks doesn't mean they are right for you, or just because more runners wear Ascis in the Comrades doesn't mean they are right for you, all the big brands, and I mean all of them, produce good shoes, perhaps they may not work well for you, but they are good shoes, the secret is to just find the shoe that fits well and feels good, and forget the brand. When you start out shoes can mean the difference between enjoying the experience and picking up an injury, getting irritated and tossing the shoes in the cupboard, or worse relegating them to walking around the mall, its vital to get the right shoe. That said I am a little skeptical of the general running store experts, in my opinion, most of them are firstly salesman, and even if they are top runners in their own right, its no guarantee they know how to determine your requirements. I am not saying dont take their advice, not at all,.. just do some homework yourself first. My suggestion is to do a little googling and check yourself first, its very simple to see if you are neutral or an over or under pronator, then go to a store and ask to see various brands of shoe that fill your particular requirements. Make sure they have a treadmill where you can run for a few minutes in the various shoes,.... trotting up and down the store's 6ft carpet while someone lies on the floor looking at your footstrike tells you nothing, you need to run steadily and get into a natural rhythm to feel (and see) if the shoe is working for you,....... dont even look at the brand...... when you put on the right shoe you will know immediately, it will just feel right. Buy it. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pah Bear Posted October 5, 2016 Share ... So while the whole "barefoot running" thing didn't gain traction it certainly works for me. Works for me too. I used to run in HEAVY Asics pronations. Developed a groin injury completing my 4th full Oceans and after many a specialist, switched to "barefoot running" shoes. Still only do minimalist and truth be told, the shoes don't "wear" out (no absorption required) so I'm still using an old piece of takkie that's been giving me oodles of mileage. Now I just smile when I see guys spending R1k+ on running shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanievb Posted October 6, 2016 Share https://www.poobienaidoos.co.za/ for the win ordered tuesday at 13:04, on my desk a few minutes ago thanks for the recommendation manne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOldGuy Posted October 6, 2016 Share Works for me too. I used to run in HEAVY Asics pronations. Developed a groin injury completing my 4th full Oceans and after many a specialist, switched to "barefoot running" shoes. Still only do minimalist and truth be told, the shoes don't "wear" out (no absorption required) so I'm still using an old piece of takkie that's been giving me oodles of mileage. Now I just smile when I see guys spending R1k+ on running shoes.Interesting, I cant say I have spent hours studying the pro's and con's of barefoot running but I personally would be very wary of hitting a 42 km or further run on tar, barefoot, even after running for over 40 years. Running without any kind of support takes significant training and I would say for a new runner it would almost guarantee an injury, maybe if they could train on a golf course or a similar soft surface and stick to short distances of 5kms or so, they could build up, but I think the jolting from zero strike absorption on tar over long distances would cause significant stress on the hip and lower back muscles and lead to injuries.Possibly once those muscles are stronger and able to take the pounding you would stand a better chance, but, Yah,... I still think its a bit of a gamble, not to mention the glass and debris on the road side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travisza Posted October 6, 2016 Share I've tried other stability shoes (GT 1000, Nike Lunar) and they don't work for me. Keen on trying the noosa, but If i need to spend 2k on a pair they must last, my GT 2000 lasts about 700-800km 836kms on my current pair of Noosa's. Probably ran more than 1,000 in my pair before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travisza Posted October 6, 2016 Share I tend to agree, I have been a regular runner for over 40 years, okay I know....I am old, but in that time I have learnt a few things, the first been dont buy solely by Brand. Just because your mate like Reeboks doesn't mean they are right for you, or just because more runners wear Ascis in the Comrades doesn't mean they are right for you, all the big brands, and I mean all of them, produce good shoes, perhaps they may not work well for you, but they are good shoes, the secret is to just find the shoe that fits well and feels good, and forget the brand. When you start out shoes can mean the difference between enjoying the experience and picking up an injury, getting irritated and tossing the shoes in the cupboard, or worse relegating them to walking around the mall, its vital to get the right shoe. That said I am a little skeptical of the general running store experts, in my opinion, most of them are firstly salesman, and even if they are top runners in their own right, its no guarantee they know how to determine your requirements. I am not saying dont take their advice, not at all,.. just do some homework yourself first. My suggestion is to do a little googling and check yourself first, its very simple to see if you are neutral or an over or under pronator, then go to a store and ask to see various brands of shoe that fill your particular requirements. Make sure they have a treadmill where you can run for a few minutes in the various shoes,.... trotting up and down the store's 6ft carpet while someone lies on the floor looking at your footstrike tells you nothing, you need to run steadily and get into a natural rhythm to feel (and see) if the shoe is working for you,....... dont even look at the brand...... when you put on the right shoe you will know immediately, it will just feel right. Buy it. Good luck. 100% agree. Just because a shoe fits someone else well doesnt mean its the best for you. I always find that as soon as I try on the right shoe I can feel its the one for me, no matter the brand. Pretty much dont care who made the shoes as long as they feel good - out of Nike, Addidas, Asics, Saucony, Brookes, etc. they are all going to be good shoes anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOldGuy Posted October 6, 2016 Share 836kms on my current pair of Noosa's. Probably ran more than 1,000 in my pair before that.Yah, I seldom change my shoes before 1000 kms, and even then I sometimes wonder if they need changing. I keep a fairly detailed log of my runs so its easy to look back and check distances, my present shoes have close to 800 kms on them now and they are still perfect, easily get another 200 kms or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beesrib Posted October 7, 2016 Share Yah, I seldom change my shoes before 1000 kms, and even then I sometimes wonder if they need changing. I keep a fairly detailed log of my runs so its easy to look back and check distances, my present shoes have close to 800 kms on them now and they are still perfect, easily get another 200 kms or more. I am still quite new to running, and hit my first 800km on my asics. Never thought I would run this much, but really loving it. Not doing big km's, around 5 -10km sessions, so after 800km my shoes are still in what looks like a very good condition. Bought a new pair as the price was right, and will use them for longer runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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