'Dale Posted March 4, 2019 Author Posted March 4, 2019 This guy.. I love wathing him during the classics.. he gives absolutely everything for his team during the classics. Sent from my SM-G950F using TapatalkTop 10 for the Gorilla ???? Class act Vetplant, Gen and Jensie 3
'Dale Posted March 4, 2019 Author Posted March 4, 2019 Yup. Only 69 finishers. I don't know the race route that well but I'm guessing there is a loop near the end where it's conveniant to DNF and ride a few km along a short cut to the team busses parked at the finish line..Yeah, it was a 30 km loop that they rolled twice to reach the 201 km finish ???? Eldron 1
Eldron Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 DD were al sick! http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sickness-wipes-out-dimension-data-from-opening-weekend/
SwissVan Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 DD were al sick! http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sickness-wipes-out-dimension-data-from-opening-weekend/And there we have itStand easy all the scepticsMoi included Geronimo 1
Gen Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 DD were al sick! http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sickness-wipes-out-dimension-data-from-opening-weekend/All of them?.. Only Valgren and EBH finished Omloop.. why race if they are sick. Vermote had such great promise at QS... just not happening at DD. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk dsw 1
Jewbacca Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 All of them?.. Only Valgren and EBH finished Omloop.. why race if they are sick. Vermote had such great promise at QS... just not happening at DD. Sent from my SM-G950F using TapatalkMy theory is Team Culture. Any team sport. If there is a positive culture that involves good structures and winning, results are expected. When teams are 'building' or constantly playing the underdog, the basic culture has an escape clause in it. I'm sure they are all still 'trying their best' but often that same best in a different environment leads to far better results consistently. It is why sometimes better for a team to shed the odd 'star' if he or she is detrimental or bigger than the team.
Gen Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 My theory is Team Culture. Any team sport. If there is a positive culture that involves good structures and winning, results are expected. When teams are 'building' or constantly playing the underdog, the basic culture has an escape clause in it. I'm sure they are all still 'trying their best' but often that same best in a different environment leads to far better results consistently. It is why sometimes better for a team to shed the odd 'star' if he or she is detrimental or bigger than the team.They rushed to WT status too soon and have been hanging on ever since.. they really don't justify their WT status spot. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
Eldron Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 They're doing way better this year - not bottom of the log... It is a little early to judge their classics form - only 1 weekend so far. Vælgeren is classy - he'll perform.
Gen Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) They're doing way better this year - not bottom of the log... It is a little early to judge their classics form - only 1 weekend so far. Vælgeren is classy - he'll perform.He needs a team to support him..damn hard winning or getting a top 10 in a bike race.. but very hard without support Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Edited March 4, 2019 by Gen
Eldron Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 He needs a team to support him..damn hard winning or getting a top 10 in a bike race.. but very hard without support Sent from my SM-G950F using TapatalkDepends on the racing. The breaks will be chased down by bigger teams if the mix is wrong. If the mix of the break is right DD are poked - not enough firepower. That said - they have the best classics team yet. I'm hopeful. It's too early in the season the write the off yet (although I'm already worried about Maincheese).
Gen Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Depends on the racing. The breaks will be chased down by bigger teams if the mix is wrong. If the mix of the break is right DD are poked - not enough firepower. That said - they have the best classics team yet. I'm hopeful. It's too early in the season the write the off yet (although I'm already worried about Maincheese).Since getting WT status they have relied on that tactic during the classics, with no success.. thing is it is not just a question of bringing the break back like during a GT.. this is balls to the walls racing often on narrower roads.. if you aren't well positioned you are just playing catchup and have nothing left when it matters most.. team mates drop like flies before 80km to go. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
Eldron Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Since getting WT status they have relied on that tactic during the classics, with no success.. thing is it is not just a question of bringing the break back like during a GT.. this is balls to the walls racing often on narrower roads.. if you aren't well positioned you are just playing catchup and have nothing left when it matters most.. team mates drop like flies before 80km to go. Sent from my SM-G950F using TapatalkFor sure - tactics are not as straight forward as chasing breaks but I reckon a top 10 is pretty achievable for riders like Valgren riding as semi supported lone wolves. Gen 1
Gen Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 For sure - tactics are not as straight forward as chasing breaks but I reckon a top 10 is pretty achievable for riders like Valgren riding as semi supported lone wolves.Yip not easy..nothing is easy when it comes to the classics.. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Eldron 1
Shebeen Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 They only raced 123km and not 197. I think they should just end the discussion for all time and race all together and put both races' prize money in one pot, they get televised and see what happens Plus the men race over 200km again todaytrolling on a sunday, was the dominee that boring?
Shebeen Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 They rushed to WT status too soon and have been hanging on ever since.. they really don't justify their WT status spot. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk We got invited to a grand tour!We got WT licence!We signed CAV, and his sprint train!We won some TdF stages!Cav is not around forever, let's try something else!Let's try win this thing overall, with an african rider!This is harder than we thought, let's try something else!We signed some classics guys! sjoe, what next?http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/aldag-on-rebuilding-a-struggling-dimension-data/ FYI, no matter what happens I'll still back our local team, and to quote the 2003 springbok marketing okes before the WC in oz, "My blood are green"
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