lechatnoir Posted February 24, 2017 Share Body fat percentage would be a better gauge to understand the room for weight loss. For sure, but calipers are unreliable, and Dexa and other types of measurement not cheap/readily available. Anyway, it's a guide at best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted February 24, 2017 Share I would be very interested in this if the offer is open to others?Sure - it's not a secret - drop them (Alan) a note - be warned - its not a free service. http://www.performancechef.com/about They have some example recipes somewhere on the site - try them first. edit - should have added their fb page too https://www.facebook.com/performancechef/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-h Posted February 24, 2017 Share Just go banting. I just turned 50 and through banting have lost 8kg's in 6 weeks. I now weigh 75 and hope to get down to 72 by the end of March.what did this do to your endurance / cycling performance? I tried cutting out carbs about 2 years ago and 2 weeks into the new diet I was down to my worst condition in years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted February 24, 2017 Share what did this do to your endurance / cycling performance? I tried cutting out carbs about 2 years ago and 2 weeks into the new diet I was down to my worst condition in years +1 Will start paying attention again when the banters beat me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgens Smit Posted February 24, 2017 Share Sure - it's not a secret - drop them (Alan) a note - be warned - its not a free service. http://www.performancechef.com/about They have some example recipes somewhere on the site - try them first. edit - should have added their fb page too https://www.facebook.com/performancechef/ Sent him a mail, from what I can gather their pricing starts at around 50 GBP which is on par with what you'd pay for a Nutritionist in SA. Thanks so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted February 24, 2017 Share +1 Will start paying attention again when the banters beat me They won't - unless they race on carbs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heel Drop Posted February 24, 2017 Share So here's my story. I'm a roadie who averages 8-10 hours per week on my bike - either my IDT via Zwift or outdoors on weekends.I do weight training twice a week at the gym.I am 53 years old. I cook most of my meals myself with good healthy ingredients and limit my saturated fats. I virtually never drink sugary drinks and satisfy my sweet tooth mostly with dark chocolate. I don't have tons of coffee with sugar. I eat lots of fresh fruit and veggies. I drink very little beer, but am partial to a good Scotch (or two) a couple of nights per week.I weigh around 83 kg and feel like I would be at my fighting weight under 80 kg.I want to try Fit Chef's 21 Day Challenge to see if it helps me drop the extra 3 or 4 kg quickly. My aim is to do it after Argus in the weeks leading up to the Maluti Double 90. Does anyone in Hubland have real life experience if the Fit Chef meals and challenge? Do you have any input/advice? Or alternatives?try day to day - fresh food del to your door on Monday with fresh ingredients for the week till Thursday - 30- 40 min cooking time and the food is fantastic , lots of flavour and the service is outstanding - been using them over 4 weeks now and eating really good food and well balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterF Posted February 24, 2017 Share what did this do to your endurance / cycling performance? I tried cutting out carbs about 2 years ago and 2 weeks into the new diet I was down to my worst condition in yearsThe first 3-4 weeks you feel like crap with no energy, but if you give it a chance and push through your body adapts to burning fat and you start feeling great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted February 24, 2017 Share what did this do to your endurance / cycling performance? I tried cutting out carbs about 2 years ago and 2 weeks into the new diet I was down to my worst condition in years I cut carbs to practically ZERO for 2 months, then fasted fully (as in calories from coffee only) for a week then posted a wack of strava PRs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgens Smit Posted February 24, 2017 Share I cut carbs to practically ZERO for 2 months, then fasted fully (as in calories from coffee only) for a week then posted a wack of strava PRs... How can that be healthy? The fasting part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worriesnot Posted February 24, 2017 Share I cut carbs to practically ZERO for 2 months, then fasted fully (as in calories from coffee only) for a week then posted a wack of strava PRs... As in, you don't eat for a week?? A whole week?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted February 24, 2017 Share How can that be healthy? The fasting part. OK, so fasting doesn't necessarily mean nil per mouth... some people fast and cut out meat only... so its semantics a lot of the time. My fast was water, coffee and salt only. It means being in a ketogenic state, and that is a good place to be and seems to be ok for cycling. At least it is for me... YMMV. literally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted February 24, 2017 Share As in, you don't eat for a week?? A whole week??no. nada. weight loss not as dramatic as I'd hoped and bathroom visits are strange and infrequent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgens Smit Posted February 24, 2017 Share OK, so fasting doesn't necessarily mean nil per mouth... some people fast and cut out meat only... so its semantics a lot of the time. My fast was water, coffee and salt only. It means being in a ketogenic state, and that is a good place to be and seems to be ok for cycling. At least it is for me... YMMV. literally Did you have a reasonably high fat percentage when you started the fast?Also what was your training like at the time? Weren't you already in a ketogenic state if you had been leaving out carbs for 2 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shell Belle Posted February 24, 2017 Share OK, so fasting doesn't necessarily mean nil per mouth... some people fast and cut out meat only... so its semantics a lot of the time. My fast was water, coffee and salt only. It means being in a ketogenic state, and that is a good place to be and seems to be ok for cycling. At least it is for me... YMMV. literally I really can't see how this is a healthy way to live :/Could you function optimally at work? And how was your emotional state? I am studying medicine and there is NO WAY I could function without eating at all for a whole week. My concentration would go out the window and I would probably kill everyone around me haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithbe Posted February 24, 2017 Share When it comes to meal plans one has to find what works for them...Take this guy. 4000 calories at 2am in the morning and physique wise looks the part... It's not normal to go from eating badly for years and then making a drastic change and then dramatically losing 'x'kgs in a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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