AC Smokin Guns or Ztr Flow mk3 hope pro 4

[Rocket-Boy]

Smokin gun have an awesome name and look really good. I would probably still go with flows though because 1. Hope hubs and 2. They like corolla's sure everyone has one but its easy to srt out problems with them.

[Pikey]

That's a damn good price.

Cost per rim is ~1400 then there's the hubs at 4k MINIMUM and then the spokes and build cost....

sweet ???? hub's on special at bike Addict for R3900 + R1400 p/r that's R6700 before spoke ,nipples and build cost. Must be another R2k ish ??

 

Only advantage of building would be colour choice of hub & nipple .

[Pikey]

Smokin gun have an awesome name and look really good. I would probably still go with flows though because 1. Hope hubs and 2. They like corolla's sure everyone has one but its easy to srt out problems with them.

yea the smokin gun are pretty flipping sweet looking.

But hopes are well.. just hopes. And I love my hope brakes for they are just brilliantly reliable ????

[BaGearA]

Hope hubs + South industries rims 

 

Don't know how tight the budget is but if you want to go all out 

 

i9 hubs on south industries 

[Johnny Lawless]

Of those 2 and with those tire sizes I'd go for the Flows. 40mm internal is pushing past the boundaries of most 2.35-2.5 tires and you have to choose very carefully to ensure the tread doesn't get too square on the wider rims. With 2.25's they'd be far too wide. If you were thinking of schwalbe 2.35/maxxis 2.5wt/maxxis 2.6 and larger then the smoking guns would be more relevant, and they could be argued for.

 

Also. Getting replacement stuff (rims / spokes / internals) for the flow/hope mix will be FAR easier and cost effective than the AC's

Myles recommending narrower rims...never thought I'd see the day

[Johnny Lawless]

Go with hope and I would suggest arch mk3 over flow. The new arch is the same width as the old flow. 2.2-2.3.

No need in my opinion to go wider than the arch

Couldn't agree more:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXPc0xyAGpB/?r=wa1

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Myles recommending narrower rims...never thought I'd see the day

There's wide.... And then there's wiiiiiiiiiiide

[Pikey]

There's wide.... And then there's wiiiiiiiiiiide

Have some plus wheels already so got me some wiiiiiiiiide wheels????

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Have some plus wheels already so got me some wiiiiiiiiide wheels????

Yeah well there you go.

[Pikey]

Hope hubs + South industries rims 

 

Don't know how tight the budget is but if you want to go all out 

 

i9 hubs on south industries

 

spoke to nico from south industries he recommended waiting for the new enduro/trail wheel for 9'rs.

 

And have just broken a Carbon wheel 2 weeks back after only 14months of use. SRAM Roam 60's ????

[Pikey]

If I was thinking of going Carbon would seriously consider these ????

https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/260938-easton-haven-carbon-29/

Best wheels I ever owned and never hurt them after much abuse . One of those things you regret .

[Johnny Lawless]

sweet hub's on special at bike Addict for R3900 + R1400 p/r that's R6700 before spoke ,nipples and build cost. Must be another R2k ish ??

 

Only advantage of building would be colour choice of hub & nipple .

Ask CWC, they're super helpfull. I bought the Arch MK3 on Hope 4 hubs on their 40th bday sale for R6200. Asked them if they could do boost on the rear (which wasn't listed on the sale) and also asked for black spoke nipples. No issues. 

[Pikey]

Yeah well there you go.

As soon as I get my pike sorted can test them ...can't wait actually ????????????????

[Pikey]

Ask CWC, they're super helpfull. I bought the Arch MK3 on Hope 4 hubs on their 40th bday sale for R6200. Asked them if they could do boost on the rear (which wasn't listed on the sale) and also asked for black spoke nipples. No issues.

 

The special they have is on a boost set of hub's ????Waiting to see if they have xd driver .

[lechatnoir]

The special they have is on a boost set of hub's Waiting to see if they have xd driver .

 

Pretty certain that can be arranged at CWC - Hope drivers just pop on and off - picked up some Flow3's on Mk4's last week and the drivers were just swappe. BUT... if you do this, make sure all the spacers are fitted, else you're going back to get your wheels sorted and you WILL be peeved. FWIW, mine were 6199, but only boost rear

[Mawbs]

anyone else heard of these new Flow Mk3 cracking in the middle between the spokes ??