2017 Wines2Whales

[Delarey]

Enjoyed the experience?  

 

For me it was a first time experience, and very glad I did it, all round fun and games.  And will not be able to listen to KONGOS - Come with Me Now without thinking of the ride / start

 

In 2014 the song they played at the start was David Guetta: Lovers on the Sun. Still my favourite W2W start song and I still get goose bumps when it comes on the radio. It will forever be a song that I associate with W2W.

[Hilton.]

In 2014 the song they played at the start was David Guetta: Lovers on the Sun. Still my favourite W2W start song and I still get goose bumps when it comes on the radio. It will forever be a song that I associate with W2W.

 

"Let's light it up, lets light it up until our hearts catch fire."

 

.. very appropriate lyrics. I remember that with fondness, still reminds me of the W2W that year.

[CtnSmith]

Gents...hats off to everyone who managed to finish the race. The heat over the 1st 2 days was something else.

 

My first W2W ride so cant comment on the logistics and organisation to much but I didn't find much fault. Definitely need to finish earlier in the day if I do the race again...going out in the back batches and riding with less accomplished riders does slow you down. You get in late and don't have much time to relax before your massage and taking the bike for a service. Our bike guys were far to far away and the walk to drop your bike off was not great.

 

On a positive note the knees held out ok. I had Irma from Meerendal check some settings on the Friday and her slight changes to saddle and cleats helped massively. Along with a bottle of Chinese magic spray, man that stuff is the business.

 

Hoping you guys all recover soon, see you on the trails...

 

Ps: Why was the one guy commenting on the warm shower water...best part of the day was the cold shower after

[Velouria]

Conditioning.

When the 24hr moved to Oak Valley for the first time the heat caught me out. As a solo rider I did a lot of laps over the heat of the day and it smashed me. In the face. With a chair.

 

Then in the coming summer I changed all my rides to start at 8am, riding until 1pm (I was a single man, had a lot of time,) to allow my body to adapt to the heat, and for me to learn how to read my body's signals.

Next time round I was fine on 24hr even though it was lank hot again. And it helped for other warm rides as well.

 

I love the heat. I have no idea why, but the hotter it is the better I ride. It's part of the reason I do so well at Oak Valley. (We also do our Big Day Out on the hottest day we can find, much to my accomplices' annoyance!)

 

Here are some things that I do that help with my heat tolerance:

1. Train in the heat

2. Team Sky call it functional dehydration, but condition your body to get by with reduced fluid intake

3. Get used to the taste and feeling of drinking lukewarm water from your bottles

4. Manage your body - make sure you eat and drink regularly. Know what the signs of the onset of dehydration are (increased HR, stopping sweating etc) and take steps to prevent it getting worse.

5. I've always been a bath fan, and now there is science to prove that it's good for something:

 

http://www.mysportscience.com/single-post/2016/06/13/Beat-the-Heat-%E2%80%93-a-hot-bath-after-exercise-boosts-performance-in-the-heat

[dirtypot]

5. I've always been a bath fan, and now there is science to prove that it's good for something:

 

You can't bath in CT anymore... 

 

My riding partner also loves the heat - I hate the heat but end up being dragged into it all the time.  

[Bloukrans]

I love the heat. I have no idea why, but the hotter it is the better I ride. It's part of the reason I do so well at Oak Valley. (We also do our Big Day Out on the hottest day we can find, much to my accomplices' annoyance!)

 

Here are some things that I do that help with my heat tolerance:

1. Train in the heat

2. Team Sky call it functional dehydration, but condition your body to get by with reduced fluid intake

3. Get used to the taste and feeling of drinking lukewarm water from your bottles

4. Manage your body - make sure you eat and drink regularly. Know what the signs of the onset of dehydration are (increased HR, stopping sweating etc) and take steps to prevent it getting worse.

5. I've always been a bath fan, and now there is science to prove that it's good for something:

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http://www.mysportscience.com/single-post/2016/06/13/Beat-the-Heat-%E2%80%93-a-hot-bath-after-exercise-boosts-performance-in-the-heat

Velouria, everytime I see your name I expect another race report from a Big Day Out!!

 

When can we expect the next one? Cant' wait

[Velouria]

Velouria, everytime I see your name I expect another race report from a Big Day Out!!

 

When can we expect the next one? Cant' wait

It's not hot enough yet

 

BDO usually happens in February, although we might have something sneaky planned for late December.

[dev null]

I will do some research as I have never before had this experience. I finished an Argus in 40 plus degrees a few years ago without a problem. I use one bottle of water/rehidrat/game mix and one bottle of water. Basically my problem started when my heart rate spiked rapidly on The Steep Bugger walking it out in what felt like about 38 degrees. After that it went downhill all the way as I got the dry feeling in my mouth more often, and started feeling like fainting every now and then. Then on the top of Gantouw I started losing bladder control and wetting my bibs every now and then, This is when I started panicking and knew I was in trouble, so I just rode to make WP3 as fast as I could manage to get out of the 42 plus heat.

 

This provided me with a whole new perspective of endurance racing in extreme heat, and I understood what this year's Epic field went through on the Hermanus stages.

[solty]

The bladder control issue could point to some neurological problem.

Not a medical guy, sharper okes may chip in.

But worth mentioning to your GP at next check up.

[LeoKnight]

Not sure what I did differently this time around, but for some reason the heat did not affect me as much as the Sanlam Invitational did last year. 

 

My approach was one bottle of hidrate between water points, taking some coke at the water point with salted baby patatoes, and pouring some water over my head and shirt before setting off.  During the ride my camelback became the second part of my strategy, which was to sprinkle some spare water over my legs and shirt which helped cool them down when going downhills.  

 

But we started in G and ended in I, just to give you an idea that we really took the relax approach and just enjoyed the views, trails and ride.  To be honest I started to get worried as my HR showed my only 26% of the time in Z5 on day 1, and which dropped to 1% day 2 & 3.  

[Rudi Pollard]

I will do some research as I have never before had this experience. I finished an Argus in 40 plus degrees a few years ago without a problem. I use one bottle of water/rehidrat/game mix and one bottle of water. Basically my problem started when my heart rate spiked rapidly on The Steep Bugger walking it out in what felt like about 38 degrees. After that it went downhill all the way as I got the dry feeling in my mouth more often, and started feeling like fainting every now and then. Then on the top of Gantouw I started losing bladder control and wetting my bibs every now and then, This is when I started panicking and knew I was in trouble, so I just rode to make WP3 as fast as I could manage to get out of the 42 plus heat.

 

This provided me with a whole new perspective of endurance racing in extreme heat, and I understood what this year's Epic field went through on the Hermanus stages.

Sound like dehydration to me. If you get that dry feeling in your mouth it is already to late and you should know you're in trouble.

 

I ride at the front end of the field and try to finish a bottle every 45 minutes. I start off with 2 bottles and at the 2nd waterpoint ill fill them up and try and finish them before the end. When its in extreme heat I might even drink more than that.

 

After reading loads of articles on how much pros actually eat and drink on a stage, I realised that most riders I know under-feeds and under-hydrates.

[dev null]

Sound like dehydration to me. If you get that dry feeling in your mouth it is already to late and you should know you're in trouble.

 

I ride at the front end of the field and try to finish a bottle every 45 minutes. I start off with 2 bottles and at the 2nd waterpoint ill fill them up and try and finish them before the end. When its in extreme heat I might even drink more than that.

 

After reading loads of articles on how much pros actually eat and drink on a stage, I realised that most riders I know under-feeds and under-hydrates.

 

Rudi

 

I always try to drink 2 sips for every 10 - 15 minutes of riding, depending on how hard I am riding. Just that in my case things suddenly went south at that one point. Even though it was hot, very hot, I felt good up to that point.

 

Off course, I also am aware of Hyponatremia, which is even more dangerous than Dehydration.

 

Where do one draw the line?

[Spinnekop]

dr told something similar to me after the Epic Day 1 earlier this year where a number of people fell out due to the heat (wasn't that also on the W2W routes?) Apparently some people's bodies are just better at dealing with extreme heat than others, more to do with genetics than fitness.

I lived and cycled in Phalaborwa for 11 years.

 

After a year or two your DNA changes. 

Adapt or die

 

I remember a 130km race around there in 40+ degrees polishing 6l of water on the ride. 

[dev null]

I am wondering. For the past month I have been taking ArthroGuard Acute for a problem that I have with my one knee. Could this not have put undue stress unto my kidneys?

[Pulse]

I am wondering. For the past month I have been taking ArthroGuard Acute for a problem that I have with my one knee. Could this not have put undue stress unto my kidneys?

Decreased kidney function is one of the (less common) side effects.

[Pulse]

Sound like dehydration to me. If you get that dry feeling in your mouth it is already to late and you should know you're in trouble.

 

I ride at the front end of the field and try to finish a bottle every 45 minutes. I start off with 2 bottles and at the 2nd waterpoint ill fill them up and try and finish them before the end. When its in extreme heat I might even drink more than that.

 

After reading loads of articles on how much pros actually eat and drink on a stage, I realised that most riders I know under-feeds and under-hydrates.

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I doubt this is as simple as just dehydration... Moridin is experienced, and would know how to hydrate, and would probably have done what feels natural (which is usually the best approach).

Something happened that made that insufficient - maybe meds, lack of sleep, stress, infection, too many beers... Who knows...

Personally, I wouldn't worry about it too much (but still be mindful and try and prep a bit). In most cases there are ni specific trigger.

I've has a sutuation many years ago, where I had to limp back (no sweeper/medic), and it took me 2 hours to do just over 5km...

BUT, its never happened again since - even on the +40C Desert Dash