Balooba Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 I need to high-jack this tread. Had the same problem and got it sorted via advise from here. I now lose pressure via the valve where it enters the rim (checked in the swimming pool). I did ride the bike for about 10 km to let STAN do its work. Next morning flat again....How now?????
droo Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 I need to high-jack this tread. Had the same problem and got it sorted via advise from here. I now lose pressure via the valve where it enters the rim (checked in the swimming pool). I did ride the bike for about 10 km to let STAN do its work. Next morning flat again....How now????? Most likely your tape isn't stuck down properly. Pop the tyre off again (sorry...) and check.
johannrissik Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 I've used this method many times on a 4x4 and gholf cart wheels, last week did it again with one of our carts and I managed to burn all the hair off my forearm, used hairspray.[emoji33][emoji85] Sent from my VTR-L09 using TapatalkSo YOU were the guy driving Trump's golf cart?
BSG Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 So YOU were the guy driving Trump's golf cart?Huh [emoji848] Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk
Balooba Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Most likely your tape isn't stuck down properly. Pop the tyre off again (sorry...) and check. Not the answer I was hoping for but thanks....
Vetseun Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Most likely your tape isn't stuck down properly. Pop the tyre off again (sorry...) and check.That is the worst. I also recently topped up my Stans. Next morning flat.Pumped , within an hour flat again.Took the tyre off. The Stans had started working its way under the rim tape.Stripped the rim tape out. Cleaned the rim and sealed the bliksem with gorilla tape.All is good again.
thisismyotherbike Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 That is the worst. I also recently topped up my Stans. Next morning flat.Pumped , within an hour flat again.Took the tyre off. The Stans had started working its way under the rim tape.Stripped the rim tape out. Cleaned the rim and sealed the bliksem with gorilla tape.All is good again. sorry just trying to understand, did you use gorilla tape as a substitute for rim tape? I've never done this myself so genuinely interested...
Mr lee Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 sorry just trying to understand, did you use gorilla tape as a substitute for rim tape? I've never done this myself so genuinely interested... Did this to my wife's rims and it worked a charm! Took a few days to completely seal properly but now holds fine. My main issue was also around the valve area. Remember to only use a single revolution with gorilla tape with a slight overlap as it is very thick! Ask me how I know this....ala tyre blowing off half way round modderfontein
droo Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 sorry just trying to understand, did you use gorilla tape as a substitute for rim tape? I've never done this myself so genuinely interested... If you've got a tubeless rim, use tubeless tape. If you're bodging, converting, or need extra thickness for some reason, Gorilla tape works pretty well. Be prepared for a mess when you pull it off though.
BSG Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 That is the worst. I also recently topped up my Stans. Next morning flat.Pumped , within an hour flat again.Took the tyre off. The Stans had started working its way under the rim tape.Stripped the rim tape out. Cleaned the rim and sealed the bliksem with gorilla tape.All is good again.Gorilla tape for president [emoji23] Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk
BSG Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 If you've got a tubeless rim, use tubeless tape. If you're bodging, converting, or need extra thickness for some reason, Gorilla tape works pretty well. Be prepared for a mess when you pull it off though.Sticks like [emoji90]op n wol kombers, but it works. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk
pete b Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 No one has mentioned the most important step. Mix a solution of water and dish washing liquid and brush it on the the rim all around on the area the bead will seat on.Firstly, this lubricates the area and makes the tyre "pop" out easily, Secondly, when this solution dries it becomes sticky and holds the bead in place.Thirdly , it also helps seal the bead on the rim. The next time you see a car tyre being fitted , watch carefully. They brush a similar solution on to every tyre that is fitted !! The tyre sealant (stans or similar ) will seal around the valve if installed correctly .
Simon Kolin Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 No one has mentioned the most important step. Mix a solution of water and dish washing liquid and brush it on the the rim all around on the area the bead will seat on.Firstly, this lubricates the area and makes the tyre "pop" out easily, Secondly, when this solution dries it becomes sticky and holds the bead in place.Thirdly , it also helps seal the bead on the rim. The next time you see a car tyre being fitted , watch carefully. They brush a similar solution on to every tyre that is fitted !! The tyre sealant (stans or similar ) will seal around the valve if installed correctly . If I may add my opinion and I'm happy to have someone change my mind on this... Using soapy water isn't a very good solution to seat and seal a tyre, particularly when using dishwashing liquid soap. It can change the pH level of the latex sealant and could cause it to harden prematurely. (as suggested here http://www.effettomariposa.eu/en/a-caffelatex-cocktail/) While I haven't experienced this as fact, using soapy water to seat a tyre bead has always bothered me. I would suggest you use KY Jelly. It's water soluble and very slippery. The best part is being able to apply the Jelly to the bead first and let it dry. Once dry, you can install the sealant/tyre as desired. Before inflating, spray the bead with ONLY water. This will cause the Jelly to liquify again and forms an incredible seal. Also KY isn't soluble in liquid latex and won't change the pH. Yes, the automotive industry uses special tyre mounting lubricants...but remember, they don't have to preserve the integrity of a latex based sealant too. That said, I think I'll purchase some automotive "bead butter" and see if it effects the latex in any way.
Guest Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 sorry just trying to understand, did you use gorilla tape as a substitute for rim tape? I've never done this myself so genuinely interested... I have only ever used Gorilla tape on my rims since going tubeless. I have recently removed the tyres, and added another layer of tape (2 per tyre now). Gorilla tape is awesome!
nick_the_wheelbuilder Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 Your rims are not designed for tubeless. Simple as that. No matter what you do, if you lose pressure your tyre will become unseated and you're back to square one. If you truly want to get rid of this frustration, upgrade your rims to proper tubeless ones by Stan's, WTB, Race Face, Spank, e*13 or similar. The internal cross-section of these rims is designed to lock the bead of the tyre against the rim wall to make a seal and not let go if the tyre loses pressure.This graphic explains what I mean:http://fse.bike/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/rim-bed-profile.jpg
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