Long Wheel Base Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 Anyone know a decent site that give live and meaningful weather radar locally? (web site not app) I don't find Weather SA very useful http://www.weathersa.co.za/observations/radarThis one is also not too bad.
kosmonooit Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 There is also Kobus http://www.weatherphotos.co.za/ MrJacques 1
Long Wheel Base Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 I don't have the original video anymore but here is a link to my IG with a video I took on 5th October 2017. Riding behind a A319 on tow down to the line for its first flight of the day.https://www.instagram.com/long_wheel_base/p/BZ24LX5hzMR/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=qm5xpnet1nz9 dirtypot, Lotus and PhilipV 3
Lotus Posted January 31, 2019 Author Posted January 31, 2019 Somebody clearly paid attention during his flight training. https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/pilot-makes-emergency-landing-on-cape-town-beach-20190130 J'Bay, not Cape Town as the headline says.
SwissVan Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 Somebody clearly paid attention during his flight training. https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/pilot-makes-emergency-landing-on-cape-town-beach-20190130 J'Bay, not Cape Town as the headline says.Suspected engine failure.....Looking at the picture of the plane LOL they even put in the cowling bungs after the emergency landing..... or maybe they forgot to remove them in the first place..... #purespeculation Ed-Zulu 1
Ed-Zulu Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) Somebody clearly paid attention during his flight training. https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/pilot-makes-emergency-landing-on-cape-town-beach-20190130 J'Bay, not Cape Town as the headline says.I wonder if he placed the covers on the vents in cowlings after landing? If not that might have been the reason for the prang? Edit: Swiss noticed the same Edited January 31, 2019 by Ed-Zulu
Disher Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 No it wasn't the reason for the prang, but most pilots will keep cowling bungs, chocks and pitot covers on board. one never knows when you may have to divert or inclement weather may force you down. Always wise to have the stuff on board. Most diligent pilots will want to avoid further damage, so once the landing off base is done... cover up and keep her as safe as possible. Suspected reason for emergency is in fact Carb Icing. The engine didn't actually fail, it was just unable to maintain power at over 100o revs which for that engine is min. beach landing was unavoidable and the oke did very well. Aircraft nose wheels are notoriously weak. Long Wheel Base and Ed-Zulu 2
Disher Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 Once landed and almost at a complete stop, the nose dug in and they had a prop strike. This probably caused a broken crank. If any observation / criticism to me made it might be that after the landing the pilot should have cut the mags. if he had done that then the prop wouldn't have struck and been damaged. That said - when that donkey starts misbehaving one really does have to think quick and make quick decisions. getting down safely is all that is priority. It may be (the jabiru is a slippery little plane) That he needed the propwash from the engine to enhance rudder authority and for that reason didn't cut the maggs. I say well done for a safe LOB. Pilot and pax fine and plane will be recovered and used again. That's what you train for. PhilipV, Long Wheel Base, Ed-Zulu and 1 other 4
SwissVan Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 No it wasn't the reason for the prang, but most pilots will keep cowling bungs, chocks and pitot covers on board. one never knows when you may have to divert or inclement weather may force you down. Always wise to have the stuff on board. Most diligent pilots will want to avoid further damage, so once the landing off base is done... cover up and keep her as safe as possible. Suspected reason for emergency is in fact Carb Icing. The engine didn't actually fail, it was just unable to maintain power at over 100o revs which for that engine is min.beach landing was unavoidable and the oke did very well. Aircraft nose wheels are notoriously weak.You know that for sure? While I agree the bungs were most likely installed after the forced landin, not removing bungs does happen.... one of our customers did this last year.... luckily all they experienced was high oil temps and could rejoin the circuit to make a normal landing.This was in a PC12 I once saw an experienced pilot take off in a Beechraft baron with one alternator removed ie a large gaping hole at the front of the engine and a red tag attached to the control column. He then also returned rather quickly complaining that there was lots of oil leaking from the one engine..... strue story Lotus 1
Long Wheel Base Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 Once landed and almost at a complete stop, the nose dug in and they had a prop strike. This probably caused a broken crank. If any observation / criticism to me made it might be that after the landing the pilot should have cut the mags. if he had done that then the prop wouldn't have struck and been damaged. That said - when that donkey starts misbehaving one really does have to think quick and make quick decisions. getting down safely is all that is priority. It may be (the jabiru is a slippery little plane) That he needed the propwash from the engine to enhance rudder authority and for that reason didn't cut the maggs. I say well done for a safe LOB. Pilot and pax fine and plane will be recovered and used again. That's what you train for.Does the Jabiru have a variable pitch prop?
Long Wheel Base Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 You know that for sure? While I agree the bungs were most likely installed after the forced landin, not removing bungs does happen.... one of our customers did this last year.... luckily all they experienced was high oil temps and could rejoin the circuit to make a normal landing.This was in a PC12 I once saw an experienced pilot take off in a Beechraft baron with one alternator removed ie a large gaping hole at the front of the engine and a red tag attached to the control column. He then also returned rather quickly complaining that there was lots of oil leaking from the one engine..... strue storyWTAF?????? He should have his license pulled!!!!!!!!!! PRE-FLIGHT INSPECTION. You would think that the pilot would do the best pre-flight as he is flying the plane.
Disher Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 @ SwissVan - I know it as "for sure" as reading it from the partner in the plane who was discussing it with the other partner in the plane who was the pilot at the time of the incident. There is a thread on avcom in which the plane owner outlines what happened. So whilst hearsay, I would believe the story to be accurate. Yes - it has happened for sure that pilots have missed pitot covers, bungs and even …. wait for it.... the freaking tow hitch... its happened!! @Longwheelbase - ordinarily not. @LWB again - yup. a preflight inspection is the first thing that you are taught. Many pilots are guilty of not doing it thoroughly enough. Many pilots are distracted during the process and miss things. It shouldn't by any means happen but it does. Long Wheel Base 1
SwissVan Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 WTAF?????? He should have his license pulled!!!!!!!!!! PRE-FLIGHT INSPECTION. You would think that the pilot would do the best pre-flight as he is flying the plane.One word:SalesmanAnd the prospective buyer was present2 pilots..... Nevermind a preflight, alternator out light and load meter not checked either. We Floor guys in the hangar joked about it for years at the expense of the sales guy Long Wheel Base 1
Bonus Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 About time this site added an aviation fan thread. Well done. Im the kinda guy who even if sitting at home (fourways) will walk outside to see what / who is flying over......I do this and it drives "Wendy" nuts. When we lived on the West Rand there was always something flying over, either approaching or departing Lanseria and OR and I'd often be distracted and look up while we were talking or worse, arguing. Once I got Flightradar on my iPad things only got worse - because then I could actually confirm what it was I was looking at. :-) Long Wheel Base and Lotus 2
kosmonooit Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) Even the big birds have a visual preflight by the FO who has to step down to the tarmac and walk around and do the same drill you had to do on the C152 you learnt to fly on. Its really the first thing you learn about flying. Problem quite possibly here is COMPLACENCY Having said that, any landing you can walk away from was a good one Edited January 31, 2019 by kosmonooit Long Wheel Base 1
Lotus Posted February 1, 2019 Author Posted February 1, 2019 Having said that, any landing you can walk away from was a good one Like this one! (sorry, not really aircraft, but definitely flying)https://www.news24.com/World/News/watch-the-moment-a-kite-surfer-performed-an-incredible-stunt-over-a-sandspit-20190131 Pre-flight included checking that passport is valid in destination country.
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