The Abortion Issue

[Robbie Stewart]

Humans are the only species on this planet whose existence is to the detriment of so many others. I would argue that 71740 less people is something positive. If the planet and all life on it had a voice I doubt there would be any support for pro life with regard to humans.

 

You avatar is peculiar, but seeing as you think somehow it's funny to be making such a statement when presenting yourself as Moses holding the stone tablets God wrote the 10 commandments on, I will point you to the command God gave Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply. Contrary to popular, liberal constructs, the earth is here for man, not man for the earth. Man, as described in the Bible, is made in God's image, as the pinnacle of His creation, and to destroy life is evil and rebellious in His sight. Our mandate is to care for the planet, and man has sadly done a poor job of it thus far, but to kill innocent life? Now who's playing God?

[Readsalot]

But why can't I own a Canadian?

[Escapee..]

You avatar is peculiar, but seeing as you think somehow it's funny to be making such a statement when presenting yourself as Moses holding the stone tablets God wrote the 10 commandments on, I will point you to the command God gave Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply. Contrary to popular, liberal constructs, the earth is here for man, not man for the earth. Man, as described in the Bible, is made in God's image, as the pinnacle of His creation, and to destroy life is evil and rebellious in His sight. Our mandate is to care for the planet, and man has sadly done a poor job of it thus far, but to kill innocent life? Now who's playing God?

 

and women are here to serve men!

[Stretch]

You avatar is peculiar, but seeing as you think somehow it's funny to be making such a statement when presenting yourself as Moses holding the stone tablets God wrote the 10 commandments on, I will point you to the command God gave Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply. Contrary to popular, liberal constructs, the earth is here for man, not man for the earth. Man, as described in the Bible, is made in God's image, as the pinnacle of His creation, and to destroy life is evil and rebellious in His sight. Our mandate is to care for the planet, and man has sadly done a poor job of it thus far, but to kill innocent life? Now who's playing God?

Then why does god abort children?

[Robbie Stewart]

and women are here to serve men!

 

A careful study of Scripture will prove you wrong. Woman is made as man's helper, but before God, they are equal. God even warns that if a man treats his wife badly, he should not even pray to God, for his prayers will not be heard. But hey, it's easy to play loose and fast with Scripture, and what it says, if you are likely to use Wikipedia as a source of information rather than studying Scripture, even just to convince yourself that you don't agree with what the Bible instructs.

 

Then like Stretch mentioned earlier, you can make pre-supposed assumptions by not reading it, as you have already decided beforehand that it must be archaic and backward? (as referring to his comment about not reading the Alabama Bill, not the Bible. Sorry Stretch, not attacking you, just using an example.)

[Robbie Stewart]

Then why does god abort children?

 

Does He?

[Stretch]

Does He?

Isn't that what a miscarriage is?

[Chris_]

I consider life to begin at the moment of conception. .....

 

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I think this is key in a lot of arguments. Once you're comfortable with where 'life' begins it makes a lot of views/comments easy to make. (and difficult to comprehend the latter)

[SwissVan]

and women are here to serve men!

Are there even any wimmen (Alabama accent and spelling) posting on this thread?

[Skubarra]

 

 

Does He?

 

Didn't you know that 2/3's of fertilized eggs gets aborted by the woman's body itself most of it shortly after conception. I kind of assumed that you know that given that you base your opinions on science.

[Robbie Stewart]

Isn't that what a miscarriage is?

 

No. A miscarriage is a medical condition, whereby the woman is unable to carry the baby full term. God does not want anyone to die, but sadly, some do. But then, if a child does sadly die, that child is with Him.

 

I struggled with this, but read a while back where God was instructing Moses about the Law, and they were dealing with skin disease, and what to do when they get sick. It struck me that God was instructing Moses that He could heal, but that He was not always going to do so, and that Moses better implement some hygiene and medical protocols to keep his people healthy.

[Robbie Stewart]

I think this is key in a lot of arguments. Once you're comfortable with where 'life' begins it makes a lot of views/comments easy to make. (and difficult to comprehend the latter)

 

Okay, what do you believe to be the point where life begins?

[Robbie Stewart]

Didn't you know that 2/3's of fertilized eggs gets aborted by the woman's body itself most of it shortly after conception. I kind of assumed that you know that given that you base your opinions on science.

 

I base my opinions on science, agreed. But as any astute scientist will confirm, I, nor am I certain any sincere person, will pretend to be a walking scientific journal, who can draw on specific facts without a level of research being applied. But this discussion is not about the body rejecting a fertilized egg. This discussion is about terminating a viable baby which has begin to grow in the mother's body, which if there was no human intervention, the body would in all likelyhood not have rejected.

[Robbie Stewart]

Who is the person who decides this? And what is their selection based on?

 

No one decides this. It just happens. I don't deny confirmed medical reason for having to abort a child. I fight for the right of the child who dies because mommy was not interested in raising the poor child.

[Chris_]

Okay, what do you believe to be the point where life begins?

 

I don't have such hard and fast rules as you. But I don't believe sentient life begins so early on. The difference in definition is what I've built my pro-choice decision on. 'Life' begins much later, and I believe in a womans choice over her body/life..

[Stretch]

No. A miscarriage is a medical condition, whereby the woman is unable to carry the baby full term. God does not want anyone to die, but sadly, some do. But then, if a child does sadly die, that child is with Him.

 

I struggled with this, but read a while back where God was instructing Moses about the Law, and they were dealing with skin disease, and what to do when they get sick. It struck me that God was instructing Moses that He could heal, but that He was not always going to do so, and that Moses better implement some hygiene and medical protocols to keep his people healthy.

Yeah no.. Sorry..I just can't agree with this. If god is the all powerful then why create life in a body that will reject it. So often we hear people saying "god will give us a child". Is it not god creating the life then? And if it is god creating the life then why create it in an unsuitable vessel?