The Abortion Issue

[Robbie Stewart]

Compiled by a bunch of men who decided which books to include or exclude, made up bits that were missing or lost in translation

 

And thus the burden of proof is on you to verify your statement with approved evidence, or else you will be guilty of genetic fallacy.

[Andrew Steer]

God created man in His image, as I have already mentioned. Body, Soul (mind and intellect) and Spirit (your eternal you, who comes from Him). In God's creation, everything was perfect, but man's disobedience allowed sin to enter our world. Because of that sin, all of creation is subject to the effects thereof, including decay, disease and death. An unviable fetus was never part of God's original design. That was a result of man's rebellion against God's perfect will.

 

God having made man a free agent, had to have given us free will, including the right to choose between good and evil, else we would not be truly free-agent humans with a capacity to make up our own minds about whatever. 

 

So now, because sickness, disease, death and decay reign freely, we sometimes are subject to the effects thereof, whether we like it or not. When God creates a new life, and for whatever reason that life ends, or never begins as you are trying to imply, the eternal part of that life returns to Him.

Fixed that for you...

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

And thus the burden of proof is on you to verify your statement with approved evidence, or else you will be guilty of genetic fallacy.

It's a well known fact among theologians and philosophers alike that the Bible has been added to, subtracted from, amended and modified along the centuries, and the original manuscripts were completed many hundreds of years after Jesus was claimed to have been active from a collection of stories from the bronze age and later.

 

In a nutshell.

 

But then you probably mean evidence that confirms your biases, or that you accept as evidence, which would be a totally different bar to what we would consider due to your cognitive bias

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Im still trying to work out why god would create a life in a body that's gonna reject that life in a few weeks

It's the biggest PSYCHE! there is

[Stretch]

And thus the burden of proof is on you to verify your statement with approved evidence, or else you will be guilty of genetic fallacy.

There's a plethora of sources which state the detail of the excluded books of the apocrypha. As well as detail about the translation process. Have you read those all? What if there is something in there that contradicts some of your beliefs. Is it ok because thankfully it was excluded from the main book

[Gen]

And thus the burden of proof is on you to verify your statement with approved evidence, or else you will be guilty of genetic fallacy.

Are you kidding me.. the Vatican removed a lot of books from the bible way back when....and why did they do that

. Because is didn't suit their narrative...

 

The most corrupt, power hungry institution in history is responsible for the contents of your bible.

[Eldron]

Surely if the aim/reward/end result is that these godmade human spirits end up with god then surely the route is relevant?

 

Religious folk should shpport abortion/murder/infantcide because it gets the spirit to god faster?

[Escapee..]

Surely if the aim/reward/end result is that these godmade human spirits end up with god then surely the route is relevant?

 

Religious folk should shpport abortion/murder/infantcide because it gets the spirit to god faster?

 

Now that would be true love? Giving up your life so that your child can go to heaven

[Robbie Stewart]

There's a plethora of sources which state the detail of the excluded books of the apocrypha. As well as detail about the translation process. Have you read those all? What if there is something in there that contradicts some of your beliefs. Is it ok because thankfully it was excluded from the main book

 

You fail to answer the question. You cannot day that there are books that may contain the evidence you seek. You must provide the actual evidence. It's like saying to someone there may be a book somewhere that contains a law about a certain issue, rather than providing the actual law as stated. 

[Escapee..]

And from what Robbie is saying I am really getting pissed off with ADAM.

 

HE ****** it all up for us, for what! a granny smith apple!

[Robbie Stewart]

As I understand it you believe life begins at conception so I'm just trying to get my head around what a few day old fertilized egg that fails to attach to the mothers womb is going to do in the presence of God?

 

I quote Peter Singer, a contemporary philosopher an abortion advocate (i.e. he is not a Christian), from his book Practical Ethics:

 

"It is possible to give ‘human being’ a precise meaning. We can use it as equivalent to ‘member of the species Homo sapiens’. Whether a being is a member of a given species is something that can be determined scientifically, by an examination of the nature of the chromosomes in the cells of living organisms. In this sense there is no doubt that from the first moments of its existence an embryo conceived from human sperm and eggs is a human being.⁵"

[Robbie Stewart]

And from what Robbie is saying I am really getting pissed off with ADAM.

 

HE ****** it all up for us, for what! a granny smith apple!

 

indeed. You are starting to understand.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

And this is why religiom should be kept well away from politics and policy discussion. It's okay for determining your ethical radar, but you cannot force that on others who have moved on to more enlightened pastures and have a more egalitarian and progressive set of ethics that are not modelled on a 1500+ year old collection of stories when the world was a different place.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

And from what Robbie is saying I am really getting pissed off with ADAM.

 

HE ****** it all up for us, for what! a granny smith apple!

Pretty sure it was a golden delicious...

[Eldron]

And this is why religiom should be kept well away from politics and policy discussion. It's okay for determining your ethical radar, but you cannot force that on others who have moved on to more enlightened pastures and have a more egalitarian and progressive set of ethics that are not modelled on a 1500+ year old collection of stories when the world was a different place.

I'm not so sure. I'd be happy to stone a few politicians to death for wearing a polycotton shirt to parliament.

[Stretch]

 

 

You fail to answer the question. You cannot day that there are books that may contain the evidence you seek. You must provide the actual evidence. It's like saying to someone there may be a book somewhere that contains a law about a certain issue, rather than providing the actual law as stated.

Let's flip this round... Have you read them all? The "burden of proof" is for you to prove they don't.

 

Jemimah 6:67 . Though shalt remove the child of God conceived under unholy law