CO2 Cartridges on South African Airways flights

[Long Wheel Base]

https://www.flysaa.com/manage-fly/baggage/restricted-items

[Slowbee]

Nope, not in hand luggage or checked luggage. Take your inflator nozzle in checked luggage, buy cartridges at destination, donate back those not used when you leave....

oh my cotton pickin soul ... has someone suggested a donation of material goods so as to obey the law rather than try rob the system for a few extra bucks ?

 

What would our elder government state people say ! Off to the ethics committee for you.

[Long Wheel Base]

So now my question is, how do they get those Co2 canisters imported, all by boat?

 

And then letting my mind wander a bit further. That Inflate able life jacket under your seat, how does it get inflated when you pull the string? BY A CO2 CANNISTER OF COURSE.... 

Yip, and it is also a lot bigger than the ones we use on our bicycles.

[Wannabe]

1: under the 'Hazzmatt' moniker. hazardous materials...so in special containers

 

 

2: and...they are in the cabin of course....so a problem can be managed.

 

I only mentioned why they don't like that stuff in the hull.

also pretty sure anything that gets installed in a plane goes through alot more testing than something you use to inflate your bicycle tire lol 

 

Just pushing your buttons.   

[MORNE]

Just pushing your buttons.   

i'm defo not one of those lol...you are 100% welcome to  Hell, I do it all the time. it's fun seeing how easily people (myself included) get triggered by irrelevant crap. 

 

it's a public forum...and we are debating. all good.   

[scotty]

How are they imported into SA ? Certainly not by cargo ship. 

[MORNE]

1: under the 'Hazzmatt' moniker. hazardous materials...so in special containers

 

 

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https://www.flysaa.com/manage-fly/baggage/restricted-items

 

How are they imported into SA ? Certainly not by cargo ship. 

on the aeroplane still but all the above. if you've ever ordered hazmats from any where other than china (they are cowboys) you'll know that these are all subject to higher shipping costs due to handling/containment 

 

 

for the purpose of the conversation...example of how a proper store list items like these:

 

[Fat Boab]

Cargo planes presumably have different regulations than passenger...

 

https://www.flysaa.com/about-us/leading-carrier/saa-cargo/special-services

[Long Wheel Base]

Cargo planes presumably have different regulations than passenger...

 

https://www.flysaa.com/about-us/leading-carrier/saa-cargo/special-services

No passengers to worry about. I have seen cargo and passenger planes with freight that is a lot more hazardous than what passengers bring on board. I did a flight(cargo plane) once that was taking race horses to Mauritius. They had a lot of hay for the horses and that is a big time fire hazard. I had a coffin on a passenger flight before and it leaked!!! The cargo guys opened the cargo door and there was embalming fluid all over the place. Imagine picking up your bag in the terminal and it is drenched in that stuff!!!! That aircraft got grounded for a few days while the cargo got cleaned out and extra inspections had to be done to check for corrosion. I have even seen a lion on a cathay pacific passenger flight!!!! Felt sorry for that poor kitty.

[PhilipV]

How are they imported into SA ? Certainly not by cargo ship.

Why not? These are the type of items that are bought in bulk and will make up a part of a bigger consignment of goods.

the LED light guys order in bulk and the shipment is then combined by the shipping companies to fill a container.

[rorydewet]

There is a place in Epping that sells all the confiscated items. Pocket knives and co2 bombs go for something silly like at R10 a piece. They had a basket full of co2 bombs the last time I was there.

Just saying.

please help us by giving us the location

[PhilipV]

No passengers to worry about. I have seen cargo and passenger planes with freight that is a lot more hazardous than what passengers bring on board. I did a flight(cargo plane) once that was taking race horses to Mauritius. They had a lot of hay for the horses and that is a big time fire hazard. I had a coffin on a passenger flight before and it leaked!!! The cargo guys opened the cargo door and there was embalming fluid all over the place. Imagine picking up your bag in the terminal and it is drenched in that stuff!!!! That aircraft got grounded for a few days while the cargo got cleaned out and extra inspections had to be done to check for corrosion. I have even seen a lion on a cathay pacific passenger flight!!!! Felt sorry for that poor kitty.

I've heard from a pilot that blood is one of the bigger worries due to its very corrosive nature. Any truth in that?

[PhilipV]

We do dangerous goods transport (road freight) and the minimum quantities come into play for a lot of goods.

ie Aerosol containers have very little danger when in small quantities, but when you are transporting a Pallet of them, then it becomes a big potential danger.

Air freight is regulated way more strictly, and I think the airlines are just keeping their risk down by limiting the quantity of it on board.

Compressed Carbon Dioxide is UN 1013.

This is an extract from the ERG.

POTENTIAL HAZARDS

HEALTH

• Vapors may cause dizziness or asphyxiation without warning.

• Vapors from liquefied gas are initially heavier than air and spread along ground.

• Contact with gas or liquefied gas may cause burns, severe injury and/or frostbite.

FIRE OR EXPLOSION

• Non-flammable gases.

• Containers may explode when heated.

• Ruptured cylinders may rocket

[Long Wheel Base]

I've heard from a pilot that blood is one of the bigger worries due to its very corrosive nature. Any truth in that?

I reckon so. I don't know the exact chemical components and how exactly it works but blood is always packed in plenty bags and containers etc.

Useless info but apparently in some states in the US the highway patrol guys have all got a bottle of coke in their boots and when there is blood on the road they pour coke on it and the coke dissolves the blood and cleans the road. So makes you wonder how bad coke must be then.

[PhilipV]

please help us by giving us the location

Real Steel in Epping Industria.

The cool items like nice knives are either shopped quickly or never make it to the shop floor. Mostly small victorinox and cheap leatherman knock offs left over.

But you can get a lot of co2 and butane (hiking stove) canisters for dirt cheap.

 

I won't make a mission to go there, but if I'm in the area I usually pop in for a handful of co2 bombs

[Plentipotential]

I reckon so. I don't know the exact chemical components and how exactly it works but blood is always packed in plenty bags and containers etc.

Useless info but apparently in some states in the US the highway patrol guys have all got a bottle of coke in their boots and when there is blood on the road they pour coke on it and the coke dissolves the blood and cleans the road. So makes you wonder how bad coke must be then.

 

 

Coke is great for cleaning minor rust off anything.