Protein supplement recommendations

[Thermophage]

Just now, justinafrika said:

… or if you can stomach it, how about taken from source?  England and pro footballer Andros Townsend’s dietician has him on a plate of chicken feet at supper every day.  

Sure...but the gelatin is at least powdered already and same source as that expensive collagen stuff.

[JayLow]

2 minutes ago, Thermophage said:

Yep it tastes significantly better than Nutritech for example. Those numbers are all normalised to 100g. So it's actually not significantly higher than the median of others (yes, I should do a statistical test to technically say significant).

And the overall protein content doesn't count (for me)...what counts is the cost of the protein per gram...Then adjust your does to get your desired protein intake/serving.

Yea I use a combo of c/g and purity, I prefer higher purity because I want to avoid "fillers" but I will try this PSN for sure. Will set aside principles for price.

[JayLow]

2 minutes ago, BaGearA said:

This is a moerse nice break form the usual "friday" threads we've had in the past few weeks 

Anyone had some experience at pharmacies that they want to share?

[dexterdent]

1 hour ago, Thermophage said:

Of the locally available I have tried, the PSN tastes the best...and waddaya know...It's also the cheapest per gram of protein compared to many others...

The chocolate varieties are super nom...and 1kg can frequently be found for as little as R140...Link below assumes the "regular" price/kg of about R220...where it is STILL the cheapest.

*snip*

 

Also using PSN due to the price and taste, much cheaper and still tastes better than most of the others I tried (as long as you stick with the chocolate ones, the other flavours are just ok to me). 

It makes it much easier to get my total protein for the day up without pushing up the calories too much. I even mix it with milk for my lunch cheerios

I'm not that big into supplements and prefer just eating healthy and varied, but getting some extra protein in after cycling sessions on zwift definitely improves recovery for me.

[Guest Mike Dewing]

1 minute ago, Dappere said:

Certainly, comparing the protein needs of a competitive bodybuilder to those of a cyclist sheds light on how dietary requirements can differ dramatically based on the nature of the sport and the athlete's goals. A bodybuilder, as mentioned by your wife's best friend, typically leans towards higher protein intake to support muscle growth and repair. This approach makes sense given their objective to increase muscle mass and strength.

On the other hand, a cyclist's diet requires a more balanced approach, with a good mix of protein and carbohydrates, especially post-workout. While protein is crucial for repairing and rebuilding muscle tissue affected during long rides, carbohydrates are equally important for replenishing glycogen stores that have been depleted during endurance activities. This balance helps ensure optimal recovery and performance for cyclists, who rely heavily on sustained energy levels and muscle endurance.

This contrast highlights the importance of tailoring one's diet to their specific activity demands. Whereas bodybuilders may prioritize protein to bulk up, cyclists need to balance their intake to support both muscle recovery and energy needs, illustrating the varied nutritional strategies across different sports.

Agreed, we absolutely need the carbs as well as protein.. the body building world is restrictive and miserable and not actually healthy at all.. actually down right dangerous.. 

im just saying that at the end of the day if that’s what works for him and makes him happy he doesn’t have to justify his diet choices.. even including carbs it’s probably still better to be over on your protein intake..

 

[BigToe]

13 hours ago, JayLow said:

I only take whey protein and pure creatine monohydrate. These are two of the very few supplements with actual science backing its efficacy. My training load also isn't that high (only about 8 hours per week), so strictly speaking I don't need any supplementation if I eat a balanced diet. But I back the science of creatine and I enjoy snacking on protein shakes.

I try to solve for purity and price, and I've found that My Wellness has an 75% purity whey product for under R0.40/g protein. Then I try to look for 500g pure creatine monohydrate for around R300. 

Some more of my beliefs.

• Unless medically prescribed, most supplements have no benefit, apart from placebo.
• Supplements should not take the place of the unsexy basics of consistently doing the right things (7+ hours sleep, balanced diet, community, strength, cardio, flexibility).

Very keen to hear other hubbers knowledge on this subject, I know very little.

Just consider that when you supplement creatine, your body stops producing it naturally, and I am led to believe at lower levels after stopping supplement.

Edited February 2, 2024 by BigToe

[Jensie]

I am just using this after a hard ride or race. Works for me and cheap. Early morning rides I just drink it on my way to work.

Biogen Pure Recovery Sports Recovery Drink

 

[Guest Mike Dewing]

1 hour ago, BaGearA said:

This is a moerse nice break form the usual "friday" threads we've had in the past few weeks 

Is it though.?! These dietary/fitness debates will go on and on and around in circles for the rest of our lives.!😳😳😭😭

[JayLow]

20 minutes ago, BigToe said:

Just consider that when you supplement creatine, your body stops producing it naturally, and I am led to believe at lower levels after stopping supplement.

A quick google search shows that this is a myth, it drops in the short term but normalises again in the long term. The levels in your body will be lower (because you are not supplementing), but your body will not stop making it.

[Guest Mike Dewing]

2 minutes ago, JayLow said:

A quick google search shows that this is a myth, it drops in the short term but normalises again in the long term. The levels in your body will be lower (because you are not supplementing), but your body will not stop making it.

Yeah the idea that something stops once you stop supplementing is crap.. your levels are just low, and that’s why you supplementing in the first place, to return them to normal levels.. 

test for example might be low and so you start supplementing and then 5 years/10 years later you stop and your levels are even lower than when you started and they blame the supplementing.. no it’s just the natural progression the levels were headed towards OVER 5/10 YEARS.. 🤦‍♂️

[Pandatron]

I just take trenbolone, its natural and grows in my cousins basement.....





Jokes aside, this thread has reminded me to start fixing my diet

[Guest Mike Dewing]

3 minutes ago, BaGearA said:

I'm keen to hear other opinions 

 

At the end of the day ( as a fucken diabetic in very good health ) 

 

I've learned nutrition is down to an individual , I've been on my current diet just under 2 months and doing spectacularly but I'm still going for s test to comb through micro details at the end of this month.

 

These 1 gram carb per kg things might work lekker for you guys but that **** will kill me.

 

Same as my current diet will probably kill some overweight people/ blood pressure issue people but it works fantastic for me.

 

AS LONG as people are healthy.

 

I thought about veganism for loooooooong ( not ethic , my health ) but I couldn't find anyway to do it with enough food and low enough carbs for me to go day to day.

 

I just hate when people try to force down their ideas upon someone 

Well that’s exactly it, we don’t know what everyone’s health status’s are and are not really qualified to be giving advice on this because everyone’s bodies will behave differently and process things differently.. 

it’s a difficult road.. fraught with liability issues.. 

I supplement, but I’ll never tell anyone to take what I’m taking.. go to your doctor or dietician.. do that **** properly🤙🏻

[Guest Mike Dewing]

7 minutes ago, Pandatron said:

I just take trenbolone, its natural and grows in my cousins basement.....





Jokes aside, this thread has reminded me to start fixing my diet

I can’t say trenbolone without pronouncing it like that water-MALOONE meme.! 🤣🤣🤣

[El Duderino]

13 hours ago, JayLow said:

I only take whey protein and pure creatine monohydrate. These are two of the very few supplements with actual science backing its efficacy. My training load also isn't that high (only about 8 hours per week), so strictly speaking I don't need any supplementation if I eat a balanced diet. But I back the science of creatine and I enjoy snacking on protein shakes.

I try to solve for purity and price, and I've found that My Wellness has an 75% purity whey product for under R0.40/g protein. Then I try to look for 500g pure creatine monohydrate for around R300. 

Some more of my beliefs.

• Unless medically prescribed, most supplements have no benefit, apart from placebo.
• Supplements should not take the place of the unsexy basics of consistently doing the right things (7+ hours sleep, balanced diet, community, strength, cardio, flexibility).

Very keen to hear other hubbers knowledge on this subject, I know very little.

Hear hear! No supplement regime can make up for a healthy, balanced diet, sufficient sleep and a non-sedentary lifestyle.

[Guest Mike Dewing]

5 minutes ago, El Duderino said:

Hear hear! No supplement regime can make up for a healthy, balanced diet, sufficient sleep and a non-sedentary lifestyle.

100%.! It’s in the name and definition..🤣🤣 they are for the purpose of supplementing a diet.. 

“Supplies what is needed or makes an addition..” 

You can’t out run a bad diet.

[Thermophage]

Protein may be the exception to the "healthy" diet for particularly active people or people trying to retain and/or build additional muscle mass.

It's pretty difficult, physically and financially, to get sufficient protein intake for these purposes without supplimentation....

Almost everythign else is more than easy to get from your more balanced diet