Ses fietsryers dam oupa by n? hy vir hull

[MWdeJager]

I quote our good friend Niels - from the Warthogs email list:

 

Okay, I don?t have much time to give a detailed response to all who disapproved of what I said.  I suppose, if I had read the article at say ten o?clock and not six a.m., then my reaction would have been more like Kinnie?s, Seb?s and Paul?s.  <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Road Rage is a very serious issue in <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />South AfricaoN> and if you get threatened or assaulted by someone, you are probably not the first person to irritate the assaulter.  You are probably the proverbial straw. 

Okay, cyclists do not obey the rules of the road enough.  This old toppie did NOT politely hoot and chances are he probably made some hand gestures.  For the cyclists to react like this, quite probably they felt in some way endangered.  Yes, there reaction was NOT right.  But this old toppie did require some sort of wake up call.  So, what are we to do?  What about the group of cyclists that were mowed down outside Milnerton a few years ago?  Do we ignore these things.

I don?t think so.  Years ago, our very own Robbie Hunter and a group of mates were charged with assault for beating up a motorist at a traffic light.  I forget the details but I think there was an accusation of bicycles being shoved through driver?s windows. 

I don?t think my attitude to this is right.  It completely goes against my policy of smile at your neighbour.  We are all just too angry.  I remember sending a very sarcastic

Email to Adele tait of Ride about an article written by Richard B(r?)eswick and their night riding.  She then forwarded to Richard who forwarded it to all his chinas that he rode with that night.  The threats of violence that I got by return post were huge.  Baseball bats the works.  It was almost hilarious.  One just wouldn?t go away.  His name was Brett.  (Actually, his name is still Brett). The punchline of the story is that Brett and I did eventually meet in Mossel Bay this year and we sat down and had a beer together and had a good laugh about it all.

 

Too aggressive.  That is what we are.  Maybe we can blame apartheid, maybe we can blame National service and maybe we can blame our parents.  Or we can just blame ourselves and just learn to chill.  I know that I have come a long way since my hijacking.  I love life and I love my neighbours.  Except for Roger, but that is because he is a miserable festering carbuncle.  But one day again I am sure I will greet him, but until that day, he can just drop dead.  But I digress. 

 

We all want to one-up everybody else all the time.  Of course, now that I know say, Sebastian, I realise he is a nice guy and it doesn?t matter if he beats me at the Karoo to coast.  But let him hoot aggressively at me and I am going to want to smack his head in.  That is just the way I feel.  This ******** grand dad in Joburg is SO close to his work and yet he has inane and unnecessary urge to hoot at a group of FORTY cyclists and then he stops outside his work probably no more than a kilometre from where he hooted at them?  Stupidity should be outlawed and this toppie was stupid. 

So, suggestions, what should we do in future?  Obviously giving the bloke a bit of a smack and a spray of pepper spray is not the answer because in the end WE lose.  Maybe we should be like Mr Hitchcock and learn to memorise number plates and report to police.  Time and time again.  Then our message will get through to these jerk offs.  Maybe.  Probably not. 

 

I am at a loss here.  One step at a time.  Spread the love no matter how long it takes.  We are a wounded country for so many different reasons and we just aren?t getting over ourselves.  The solution lies in each of our own hearts.  Michael Hutchense said ?We all have wings but some of us don?t know why.?

 

But if you tie me up and give me truth serum and ask if I feel any remorse for the toppie?s ordeal, I have to say no.

[MintSauce]

"I am at a loss here.  One step at a time.  Spread the love no matter how long it takes.  We are a wounded country for so many different reasons and we just aren?t getting over ourselves.  The solution lies in each of our own hearts."

[MintSauce]

"I am at a loss here.  One step at a time.  Spread the love no matter how long it takes.  We are a wounded country for so many different reasons and we just aren?t getting over ourselves.  The solution lies in each of our own hearts."

 

"I am at a loss here.  One step at a time.  Spread the love no matter how long it takes.  We are a wounded country for so many different reasons and we just aren?t getting over ourselves.  The solution lies in each of our own hearts."

 

"I am at a loss here.  One step at a time.  Spread the love no matter how long it takes.  We are a wounded country for so many different reasons and we just aren?t getting over ourselves.  The solution lies in each of our own hearts."

[nellie]

Dis nogsteeds nie nodig om geweldadig te word nie! Maak nie saak wat die ou omie gedoen het nie.  BARBARE!!!

 

Nellie.  Gaan vertel dit vir die klein 2 jarige dogtertjie wat haar pa verloor het omdat "oupa" nie geduldig kon wees nie.....en haar pa is nou dood.  En ma moet self sien kom klaar om haar dogtertjie groot te maak en deur skool te sit.  Sonder haar regterhand.

 

Vertel vir daardie twee vroue dat ons as fietsryers moet net alles gedwee aanvaar........

 

Okay Spidey, sien jou kant.

 

Maar alles in die lewe gaan oor WEDERSYDSE RESPEK! Ek glo defnitief nie dat die 'oom' onskuldig is nie...ek bedoel - enige persoon moet regtig siek wees as hulle iemand in 'n kar sien ry, dink "hmmm...hy lyk na 'n lekker target om te volg en te gaan opfoeter". So JA...hy het iets gedoen om hulle kwaad te maak/hulle te bedreig, en dit was verkeerd van hom.

 

Maar "two wrongs does not make a right!" So ek is jammer - beide partye moet respek aanleer vir hul medemens. (nie net fietsryers vs. motoriste nie - almal op hierdie hele aarde moet dit kan toepas!) Dis 'n basiese sosiale beginsel - hoe moeilik kan dit wees om aan te leer?

[fourbar]

...and still nothing from the journalist Cobus Coetzee and/or his "meal ticket" : BEELD...

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A very poignant piece MwdeJager, if only more of us would take note.   

[Bateleur1]

Once again.....'Beeld'-like sensationalism from a cyclist!

 

CR@P! No sensationalism.  It is what I have experienced personally.

 

Once again, I do not condone what has happened, but there is not going to be any action from authorities against people like this Oupa this thing is just going to spiral out of control.  And don't tell me to stop cycling, because this attitude is applicable to all road users.

[ecYCA]

Dit is tyd dat die owerhede 'n landswye veltog loods om "oomies en tannies" intelig dat die man/vrou of kind op die fiets 'n "stadige beweegende voertuig is" en dus die bestuurder van die voertuig die reels van die pad moet toepas - dis gaan verby as dit veilig is - anders wag tot dit veilig is -

[MintSauce]

Once again.....'Beeld'-like sensationalism from a cyclist!

 

CR@P! No sensationalism.  It is what I have experienced personally.

 

Once again' date=' I do not condone what has happened, but there is not going to be any action from authorities against people like this Oupa this thing is just going to spiral out of control.  And don't tell me to stop cycling, because this attitude is applicable to all road users.

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Your quote that i was refering to did exactly what the Beeld article did....taken in the context of the discussion, it's sensationalist hyping because it misrepresents the truth....we don't have the facts

 

If you were refering to a specific personal incident, then please specify. If you just throw comments like that out there, i'm going to assume it's aimed at the present discussion

[MintSauce]

What bugs me about this discussion, is that a lot of the comments simply aren't reasonable. Things are stated and taken out of context and assumptions are thrown about as facts.

 

Obviously a lot of people on the hub have had run-ins with motorists. Obviously we all know/know of someone whose been hit by a car, be it intentional or not. So, obviously this is something that is close to all of us.

 

In the end, it doesn't matter how much this affects you, you simply have to let sanity and level-headedness prevail.

 

In the end, it comes down to each one of us and our attitudes, as stated in the quote MWdeJager posted earlier.

 

The big question is....is your attitude helping the present situation in our country?

 

 

"If there is righteousness in the heart, there will be beauty in character;
if there is beauty in character, there will be harmony in the home;
if there is harmony in the home, there will be order in the nation;
when there is order in the nation, there will be peace in the world."

 

I'm done here(i hope)

[Guest Big H]

Ok let sanity prevail...

 

Car = 2000kg, protection airbags, crumple zones, power assisted safety belts, etc etc etc. Density .... I do not know but do know that 150000use the Ben Schoeman every day

Bike = 7kg, no protection(exept for the faming at the mouth testosterone ridden cyclist) Density - 130 000 as per the National seeding register

 

The conclusion..... you cannot fart against thunder!!!!!!! I have said it many times before.... Motorists WILL not change.... it is up to cyclists (even the Testosterone ridden ones foaming at the mouth) to change. I know I am one myself.... maybe not testosterone ridden but a cyslist!!!!!

 

You lot that is foaming at the mouth wanting to take on the huge metal monsters like old Don Quixote just sit still and contemplate what has happened to you. You are condoning mayhem!!!!! That is totally unacceptable. You can now be ranked alongside rapists, car hijackers, burglars and the like. Are you now proud of yourselves!!!!!! I really and truly hope not.

 

[bikemonster]

Ok let sanity prevail...

 

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You lot that is foaming at the mouth wanting to take on the huge metal monsters like old Don Quixote just sit still and contemplate what has happened to you. You are condoning mayhem!!!!! That is totally unacceptable. You can now be ranked alongside rapists' date=' car hijackers, burglars and the like. Are you now proud of yourselves!!!!!! I really and truly hope not.

 

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Oom speaks perfect sense.

 

So doubtless we can expect him to be told off for doing so.

 

 

[Spinnekop]

Oom sit seker daar in die bos en lag vir ons.......

Hoop oom word vandag van die pad afgedruk deur een van daai donkiekarre!!! 

 

[pastapouch]

 

The conclusion..... you cannot fart against thunder!!!!!!! I have said it many times before.... Motorists WILL not change.... it is up to cyclists (even the Testosterone ridden ones foaming at the mouth) to change. I know I am one myself.... maybe not testosterone ridden but a cyslist!!!!!

 

 

I think one motorist has surely changed

... and now someone(s) did fart against thunder, and won, and everybody else is p'd of at them... what in the world do these people want???  good thing.. you can't really recognise a cyclist...

[scotty]

 

The conclusion..... you cannot fart against thunder!!!!!!! I have said it many times before.... Motorists WILL not change.... it is up to cyclists (even the Testosterone ridden ones foaming at the mouth) to change. I know I am one myself.... maybe not testosterone ridden but a cyslist!!!!!

 

 

I think one motorist has surely changed

... and now someone(s) did fart against thunder' date=' and won, and everybody else is p'd of at them... what in the world do these people want???  good thing.. you can't really recognise a cyclist...

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Many against one is not what i would call winning, i would call that thuggery. That and the fact they roughed up a woman, makes them VERY BIG

?Toe ?n kollega my wou kom help, het hulle haar ook soos ?n vloerlap eenkant gegooi,? het Grobbelaar ges?.

[epoh]

Ek wonder of oupa weet ons trek nou al hier by pagina 13 hier op die hub...of gaan dit pagina 14 wees na die post