Cippo Posted April 8, 2018 Share I couldn't help buying this bike, mainly just for the interesting gear shifters. No decals on the bike so I don't know what make it is. Must be Japanese as research shows that these Symmetric shifters mounted to a single braze-on boss similar to a water bottle mount, located on the top tube were used on Japanese bikes from 1982-83 (Bridgestone, Miyata, Shogun, Panasonic, Univega, etc). When this SunTour rear derailleur lever was moved, a cam on the inside of the shifter body also adjusted the trim on the front derailleur. I have not tested it so will have to see once restored. The bike needs some TLC.Suntour2.jpgSuntour.jpgAre those all yours? I see a Saronni in there? Edited April 8, 2018 by Cippo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppie Posted April 9, 2018 Share Are those all yours? I see a Saronni in there?I think that is my Colnago Master Arabesque that you are seeing in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartCoppi Posted April 9, 2018 Share So sorry I sold that red and gold Le Jeune years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppie Posted April 19, 2018 Share I was trying hard not to buy any more bikes this year but this old Cinelli was shouting out loud. The plan is to keep it in its weathered condition. Accept for the wheels and pedals everything seem to be original. It almost looks like the bike was wrapped in a foil like metal and then painted. The Magistroni crankset is really cool. Edited April 19, 2018 by Eppie Ibex, quintonb, DJR and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibex Posted April 19, 2018 Share I was trying hard not to buy any more bikes this year but this old Cinelli was shouting out loud. The plan is to keep it in its weathered condition. Accept for the wheels and pedals everything seem to be original. It almost looks like the bike was wrapped in a foil like metal and then painted. The Magistroni crankset is really cool.20180419_155432_resized.jpg20180419_160709_resized.jpg20180419_142238_resized.jpg20180419_142227_resized.jpg20180419_142222_resized.jpg20180419_142258_resized.jpg20180419_150359_resized.jpg20180419_161147_resized.jpg Amazing find! How did it get into such a state! Edited April 19, 2018 by Ibex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted April 19, 2018 Share I was trying hard not to buy any more bikes this year but this old Cinelli was shouting out loud. The plan is to keep it in its weathered condition. Accept for the wheels and pedals everything seem to be original. It almost looks like the bike was wrapped in a foil like metal and then painted. The Magistroni crankset is really cool.20180419_155432_resized.jpg20180419_160709_resized.jpg20180419_142238_resized.jpg20180419_142227_resized.jpg20180419_142222_resized.jpg20180419_142258_resized.jpg20180419_150359_resized.jpg20180419_161147_resized.jpgAny idea of its age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppie Posted April 19, 2018 Share Amazing find! How did it get into such a state!Rumour has it that the bike was kept outside in the garden, but I am still trying to find out the full history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppie Posted April 19, 2018 Share Any idea of its age?Nils thinks 1950's. I sent some pictures to someone in the US who keeps records of the serial numbers and studied the history of the Cinelli bikes. If I hear back from him will let you know. Prince Albert Cycles and DJR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose cog Posted April 19, 2018 Share Eppie, I also say it's 50's. There is a Cinelli register and you can check your serial number to get fairly accurate date. Unfortunately the keeper of the registry doesn't register any more bikes (I have tried to register two). The nickel and chrome plating is shot so I wouldn't leave the frame in that condition. That's too much patina. Also it will just deteriorate further. Nice find. They do weigh a tonne. Dirkitech and DJR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted April 20, 2018 Share I was trying hard not to buy any more bikes this year but this old Cinelli was shouting out loud. The plan is to keep it in its weathered condition. Accept for the wheels and pedals everything seem to be original. It almost looks like the bike was wrapped in a foil like metal and then painted. The Magistroni crankset is really cool.20180419_155432_resized.jpg20180419_160709_resized.jpg20180419_142238_resized.jpg20180419_142227_resized.jpg20180419_142222_resized.jpg20180419_142258_resized.jpg20180419_150359_resized.jpg20180419_161147_resized.jpg stolen from the net 1953 - Cinelli "fast-back" seat post bolt system introduced.-----1958 – Large paint-filled brass with silver-plate 56mm head badge discontinued, replaced by smaller paint-filled brass with silver-plate 51mm head badge.-----1959 – Unica-Nitor plastic saddle is introduced by Tommaso Nieddu of Turin, founder of Vittoria derailleur company. Giotto (owns a plastics company) and Cino help with development and later Cino enters into partnership with Nieddu in 1962.-----1960 - Mod. S.C. referred to as "Super Corsa" in 1960 Ron Kitching catalog.-----1960 - Wolf-ear head tube lugs disappear on Mod. S.C. and Mod. B.-----1963 - Cinelli five-pin steel cranks (made by Magistroni); previously three-pin. Edited April 20, 2018 by HeyYou DJR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted April 20, 2018 Share Very nice find though. Measure the Head Badge and check the Head Tube lugs for a good date estimate. I can send you the whole Cinelli timeline if you want it. If the Magistroni's are original, then my guess would be post 1963. Edited April 20, 2018 by HeyYou DJR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olffie1 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Hi Eppie, your serial number is dated between 1958 and 1961! Looking at the cranks it would probably dip into late 50’s. Eppie and DJR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted April 20, 2018 Share There simply is NO other thread on The BikeHub like this one, where people will share so very readily. IH8MUD, HeyYou, Eppie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppie Posted April 20, 2018 Share Very nice find though. Measure the Head Badge and check the Head Tube lugs for a good date estimate. I can send you the whole Cinelli timeline if you want it. If the Magistroni's are original, then my guess would be post 1963.Thanks for the info. I would love to have a look at the timeline if you don't mind emailing it to me. I think you still have my address from the Impey article I sent you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppie Posted April 20, 2018 Share Eppie, I also say it's 50's. There is a Cinelli register and you can check your serial number to get fairly accurate date. Unfortunately the keeper of the registry doesn't register any more bikes (I have tried to register two). The nickel and chrome plating is shot so I wouldn't leave the frame in that condition. That's too much patina. Also it will just deteriorate further. Nice find. They do weigh a tonne.Thanks LC, I will be taking the frame to BMC to have a look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppie Posted April 20, 2018 Share Hi Eppie, your serial number is dated between 1958 and 1961! Looking at the cranks it would probably dip into late 50’s.Thanks Olffie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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