Contador Bad sportmanship ?

[fandacious]

Oh..you want to get technical. He stood still for 28s. He struggled another 5 on his bike before he stopped. He then took another 5 to get going. Oh my sack...so AC gained 1 sec! It was totally not desperate.

 

no, his total time to get back to speed was 28 seconds.

 

if he took 28 seconds just to put his chain on, he shouldnt be racing TDF in the first place.

 

a blind cripple could do it faster than 28 seconds

[Plentipotential]

Why should anyone wait.

 

These guys put each other in the "gutter", use their heads to hold each other off in the end sprint, keep going when someone falls off the bike, never waited for the yellow jersey when he flatted on stage three. Now Contador must wait for Schleck?

 

Someone please explain why this is different.

[Mudsimus]

no, his total time to get back to speed was 28 seconds.

 

if he took 28 seconds just to put his chain on, he shouldnt be racing TDF in the first place.

 

a blind cripple could do it faster than 28 seconds

 

 

Ha ha just like tnt you also dont get it. Its not about sprinters falling and idiots trying to get chains back on. Its about AC attacking his nearest rival to gain time when he knew he was in trouble.

[Willehond]

i agree with TNT1 and fandacious.... there and then, in the moment, there was nothing else AC could do... he had to keep going... Menchov and sancchez sure as hell wernt waiting!!!!

He could have sat on and just followed them and said "I don't want to win the Tour like this", but he didn't. He is strong enough to win this Tour without taking advantage of moments like this. That is the point. He would have gotten thousands of fans by doing that AND still win the Tour, but he didn't. It's moments like these that define your image and your legacy. Right or wrong doesn't come into it.

[nicd]

AS stop was 28 seconds

 

AC gained 39 seconds

 

desperate? not really....

 

 

I'll just ride my old Raliegh with old Dura Ace and not cause all of you to fight like this when I drop my chain and come 11547th in the 94.7. (Did I miss something?) LOL

[fandacious]

Ha ha just like tnt you also dont get it. Its not about sprinters falling and idiots trying to get chains back on. Its about AC attacking his nearest rival to gain time when he knew he was in trouble.

 

but wtf? its a race. thats what you do in a race.

 

do you stop everytime someone drops a chain?

[Dirt*girl™]

Not exactly a fair show of who is the better rider though, is it now.

Cuntador didn't have to stop entirely, but he shouldn't have attacked either. The fact is he got into a group with arguably the Tours best descender (Samuel Sanchez) which gave him more of an advantage.

Disappointing Cuntador.... Go Andy!!, teach him some manners on the Tourmalet.

Oh sorry, if you know that Andy is the better rider of them all, why do they have the tour in the first place...rather give him the yellow jersey and dont even bother with the race. pfftt.

 

The best rider seldom wins, it's the better rider of the day...that takes the gold.

[Mudsimus]

 

 

do you stop everytime someone drops a chain?

 

*slaps head* Nooo...but I dont attack them to get an advantage either..

[fandacious]

*slaps head* Nooo...but I dont attack them to get an advantage either..

 

so you slow down while the rest of the group rides away from you and your opponent who dropped his chain?

[Dirt*girl™]

Exactly. A fat ginger pirate is seriously uncool...

 

Wear the patch Bob, then you can be in the cool club.

 

Pretty please?

[Mudsimus]

so you slow down while the rest of the group rides away from you and your opponent who dropped his chain?

 

Nope my point again. No one needs to slow down or stop. You just keep riding like you did before it happend. Its the delibirate attacking thats the issue.

 

And if AC did the right thing why did he post a public appolagy on you tube?

[fandacious]

Nope my point again. No one needs to slow down or stop. You just keep riding like you did before it happend. Its the delibirate attacking thats the issue.

 

And if AC did the right thing why did he post a public appolagy on you tube?

 

no, you're missing the point. AC was in the attack group, but he was not alone. If had stopped, the others would have nailed him AND AS.

 

So if AC had slowed down, AS would still have been in ****.

[Dirt*girl™]

 

And if AC did the right thing why did he post a public appolagy on you tube?

 

 

Mudsy, that is for people like you, to feel better.

[Christian Kuun]

I am obviously quite new to the game and well, quite frankly never been upfront in a race as to find myself in that situation and have any first hand experience with this "unwritten rule", and therefore I am posing this as more of a question than a statement......

 

WHY?

 

If Dayron Robles fell over a hurdle, in the olympics, the rest wouldnt wait for him?

If Michael Schumacher had gearbox problems, in the GP, they wouldnt wait for him.

If Steven Muzingi's shoe-sole came off, in the Comrades, they wouldnt wait for him?

Coincidently, This morning I watched a MTB race where Karien van Jaarsvelds chain broke- nobody waited for her?

 

Is that not what a race is about- a combination of man and machine? Even the commentators (whom, I am sure, have huge experience in the cycling game) didnt agree on this "unwritten rule" which makes me think that it is obviously not a rule that is entirely accepted and aggressively adhered to.

 

Help me out please? And dont shoot....

[Willehond]

hahahaha

 

how true

 

 

"The ethical code of pro cycling is a real mind-bender. More people seem to bother getting enraged by perceived etiquette breach than doping."

In Italy and France old blokes (and gals) sit at coffee tables all day debating cycling ethics, drugs, rider qualities, shoe colour, who was the best climber/rouleur/allrounder/style god ever. This is fuel to the fire and they will be debating this one for the next 50 years just like they debated on whether Ulrich actually DID wait for Lance and Ocana would have beaten Merckx had he not crashed on that descent. Every action and reaction gets analysed and one thing is for sure: this chain drop attack will go down in history and it will not be AC's most glamourous moment.

 

Yesterday Alberto stuck the knife in and Andy lost his mr Nice Guy smile and swapped it for a fighting mask. Bring on the Tourmalet!

[Mudsimus]

no, you're missing the point. AC was in the attack group, but he was not alone. If had stopped, the others would have nailed him AND AS.

 

So if AC had slowed down, AS would still have been in ****.

 

Yes he was in the attack group, and when the passed Andy he went straight to the front to drive the pace. But we can go on the whole day. AC's apology just proves that he knew he was in the wrong.