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Tjop, its Pinarello with one "N"

 

Or is a "Pinnarrelo" those fake grey ones you are buying off a truck?

 

I can see a local distributor get a bit upset now...

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Tjop, its Pinarello with one "N"

 

Or is a "Pinnarrelo" those fake grey ones you are buying off a truck?

 

I can see a local distributor get a bit upset now...

 

Admin, remove him :angry: He used the T-word. :P

Wie het op jou battery gepie.

You can think what you want, you cant say it, you might get in trouble if you dont have proof

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Sorry julle!

I just know that CWC and ASG do not really sit around the same fire, I doubt whether CWC will be selling bikes that came from ASG, but I amy be wrong...

 

I am a huge Pina fan and it just upset me to see the name butchered like that.

 

Apologies to all those who got upset, I was really not trying to step on anyones toes , besides I rode a grey Pina with pride for 3 years! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Sorry julle!

I just know that CWC and ASG do not really sit around the same fire, I doubt whether CWC will be selling bikes that came from ASG, but I amy be wrong...

 

 

Me on the other hand like it that some of their stuff does not com from the "official" SA distributors. That means we don't get buttf screwed in price.

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Sorry julle!

I just know that CWC and ASG do not really sit around the same fire, I doubt whether CWC will be selling bikes that came from ASG, but I amy be wrong...

 

I am a huge Pina fan and it just upset me to see the name butchered like that.

 

Apologies to all those who got upset, I was really not trying to step on anyones toes , besides I rode a grey Pina with pride for 3 years! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

...as long as it had a Campagnola groupset?!!
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Sorry julle!

I just know that CWC and ASG do not really sit around the same fire, I doubt whether CWC will be selling bikes that came from ASG, but I amy be wrong...

 

I am a huge Pina fan and it just upset me to see the name butchered like that.

 

Apologies to all those who got upset, I was really not trying to step on anyones toes , besides I rode a grey Pina with pride for 3 years! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

 

Don't want to get into huge debate here but it is not that we 'do not sit around the same fire' - we have actually visited Chris 3 times and we have tried to supply them in the past through the official channels. Chris does what he does and that's his business - good luck to him (our official view). I agree it is great from a consumer point of view to get great products at great prices and that's the role he fills when he runs these ‘specials’ - especially in times like these when you have periods where the exchange rate is really good and you can capitalise on that (regretfully at the expense of distributors that have sometimes bought stock at higher rates – but that is the new online challenge J).

 

From a consumer point of view, pricing is massively important and we understand that - we also understand that we have to meet the challenge guys like Chris (and other online vendors) is setting if we want to continue the business success we have had in the last 4 years.

 

It is just a little annoying (FROM A BUSINESS TO BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW) when we spend serious money on rebuilding and developing brands in SA (Pinarello, Rudy, SIDI, etc.) - all brands that were badly neglected in the past and then someone jumps in when the demand / awareness has been created with some seriously discounted rates (this then makes our dealers look like they were massively expensive and were ripping off clients!!). We also do not agree with the 'distributor badmouthing and accusations' that generally underpins their communications to the public (but that is our view) - I think they can be successful without having to do that.

 

For the record (and I will reply to another posting on this topic soon) - it is our ASG mission to continue to negotiate great bulk deals in order to supply quality products (through our growing network of dealers) at pricing that is competitive with any realistic online offers you might see out there. We have launched some promotions (through our dealers) on Pinarello, SIDI and Rudy Project that I am convinced no online vendor will ever be able to beat - feel free to test us on this next time you need SIDI, RUDY PROJECT, PINARELLO, SAN MARCO, FTECH, etc.) – you may be surprised.

Posted (edited)

Tjop, its Pinarello with one "N"

 

Or is a "Pinnarrelo" those fake grey ones you are buying off a truck?

 

I can see a local distributor get a bit upset now...

 

careful who you call a tjob you burrowing marsupial, once you have done 100000000th of what Chris has done for cycling in this country you will be allowed to comment again.

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Don't want to get into huge debate here but it is not that we 'do not sit around the same fire' - we have actually visited Chris 3 times and we have tried to supply them in the past through the official channels. Chris does what he does and that's his business - good luck to him (our official view). I agree it is great from a consumer point of view to get great products at great prices and that's the role he fills when he runs these ‘specials’ - especially in times like these when you have periods where the exchange rate is really good and you can capitalise on that (regretfully at the expense of distributors that have sometimes bought stock at higher rates – but that is the new online challenge J).

 

From a consumer point of view, pricing is massively important and we understand that - we also understand that we have to meet the challenge guys like Chris (and other online vendors) is setting if we want to continue the business success we have had in the last 4 years.

 

It is just a little annoying (FROM A BUSINESS TO BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW) when we spend serious money on rebuilding and developing brands in SA (Pinarello, Rudy, SIDI, etc.) - all brands that were badly neglected in the past and then someone jumps in when the demand / awareness has been created with some seriously discounted rates (this then makes our dealers look like they were massively expensive and were ripping off clients!!). We also do not agree with the 'distributor badmouthing and accusations' that generally underpins their communications to the public (but that is our view) - I think they can be successful without having to do that.

 

For the record (and I will reply to another posting on this topic soon) - it is our ASG mission to continue to negotiate great bulk deals in order to supply quality products (through our growing network of dealers) at pricing that is competitive with any realistic online offers you might see out there. We have launched some promotions (through our dealers) on Pinarello, SIDI and Rudy Project that I am convinced no online vendor will ever be able to beat - feel free to test us on this next time you need SIDI, RUDY PROJECT, PINARELLO, SAN MARCO, FTECH, etc.) – you may be surprised.

 

 

I will bet you major money that your brands mentioned gets 1000 times the publicty on the CWC site alone, compared to the millions you spend to market in crappy mags like buycyling. The best marketing is not to bullsh!t people by expensive adds and then pushng and regulating prices, the best marketing you can do is to give a quality product at decent price.

 

I for one will once again say thanks Chris and keep up the good work.

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Distributors are middle men that can anyway not supply what we want or at the decent price. :thumbdown: ..I also think that distributors has been "suggesting a price" or RRP... :thumbdown: then everyone has to or DOES charge that and at least CWC does not do that. :thumbup:

 

This "grey" story is also bulldust....if 2 bikes has been made in the same factory, they are the SAME bike why should it matter how it enters the country? Except for RRP aka price fixing??? :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

 

Why is it that in places like AUS and Eng there are different prices for the same bike and here it does not matter who you call it is the same price.

 

BTW dissing CWC on this forum. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

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