Joe Low

There's a few safe red lights to jump on Atlas and a few that arent, not much point stopping at them all.

Getting busted for lip-synching would be the icing on the cake :-)

Yeah - Go Lance......just go.

I think I'm going to find it toe-curlingly-cringy & wont be able to watch. Yes its pre-judging, but i do not see anything honest coming out of this; nor that it will help anyone but LA. Either it's going to be a saccharine gloss; or a la Tiger Woods, staged mealy-mouthed, half-assed sorrow & regret. Think i'll just read the highlights after.

Not wearing a helmet wont help a cyclist ever in the way the non-seatbelt helped you. I was with Scotty when he got totalled at the intersection during the Fountains Race a couple of yrs back & the helmet was definitely the difference.

I was dividing between people riding for leisure/sport vs bikes as a means of transport. Anyhow - helmets not a problem round our way, but i-pods very much are, as are power-walkers (spits on ground). As far as the law goes, there is no will to enforce the law, best seen by the fact that no penalty has been set for not wearing a helmet. ie its a dead duck, mostly because govt sees the population wont wear it(figuratively and literally).

Round my way I see virtually no recreational cyclists without helmets. V occasionally I'll spin round the mostly-boomed-off-suburb on a Sunday pm without; but really I dont see its an issue in Jo'burg. Maybe elsewhere its different.

I hope to give it a go tomorrow but also wanted to agree with everyone about the problems the tall grass is causing.

Stats SA probably have something. The rule of thumb is that around 50% of deaths are pedestrians and cyclists are around 3 a day out of the average total of +/-40 road deaths.

Eccentric has the most correct definitions of the different roads and sets out where you can and cant cycle. If this is too much to take in, then working to "Green signs - good, blue signs - bad" is probably the next best thing.

Saw this on FB http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc7/373072_112669385422152_1979476281_q.jpg KZN MOUNTAIN BIKING · We cannot express our outrage adequately regarding the untimely and unnecessary death of Burry Stander, apparently hit by a taxi (to be confirmed) about an hour ago, while riding with his wife Cherise. Our deepest sympathies and prayers go to the Burry's wonderful and close-knit family. This will be the most difficult time they have ever faced and all we can do is pray that they are able to cope with such a loss. Burry was loved and respected by tens of thousands of people all over the world and they will feel the pain of the family. Burry we loved you in life and we will always love the legacy that you have left us in South Africa. You have been our finest mountain biker ever and one of the best in the world. May you Rest in Peace

32gi lime flavour makes things nearly luminous green - thought i was super-dehydrated 1st time i saw it.

I'm a fun-rider & if I felt i needed a FFHmit to do what I do, it wouldnt be fun any more.

Maybe a way to cool this off is to say that incidents of both kinds happen - racism is often perceived where it isn't; and conscious/unconscious racism guides a lot of actions in a lot of countries, not just SA. I guess the important thing is to be honest and fair in our dealings as best we can be with everyone. But then they nailed Jesus to the cross for suggesting we all ought to be a bit nicer to each other (Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, I think)

A group of white guys confronts a black guy about his bike without any grounds other than "it didnt look right", and it is racist or prejudiced - prejudging a situation according to their established biases. This is whether the guys knew it or not. Its grotesque and primitive, as is a lot of reaction on the Hub, and a very good reason for the OP to leave his story as-is and not bother debating with the poison it brought out. I'm sorry he had to go through that, and this - I dont see it ever happening to me, and i can be pretty scruffy.

Gives a person something to hold onto.

**** off Clint Happy Xmas

Glasses dont break from being put in a cupboard (equivalent of "i was just riding along when it broke" stories) and so it sounds like you dont know how force was put on them - coulda been anything then. I bought the same glasses in August, dont like the quality / look so much, so of course sod's law means I cant lose or break the buggers and buy some others. They will likely last for all time - brown, ugghh.

From other threads I dont think that this is the consensus nor is it the norm, and thats how wars (or trips to casualty) start. Also not having signs at the bottom of trails saying that they are one-way and not to go up. You know that from 1st Jan 2014 SA is falling in with our chinese masters and cars are going to be driven on the right-hand side of the road? If that works out, then on 1st February 2014 buses and lorries are going to do the same.

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I dont think the Hub has had a prouder moment - just brilliant in making a real difference BM and GJ. Hope you and yours have a fantastic time from here to Xmas and beyond, Wolfie.

You cant have any complaints, & would be unwise to throw accusations; but you could ask your neighbour why they were concerned about your kitten as it's disappeared. Best to get your kids to understand that there's a lot of death out there, pets and otherwise; you could throw in the "santa's not real either" thing and get that out the way at the same time. My 9yr old went nuts last year when he found out we'd been lying to him - he was really upset. I had a large dead rat outside the bedroom door at 6am this morning. Either the cat is trying to impress me or the neighbours have turned psycho.

Saw that, and thought he came across really oily / Oprah / Holier-than-thou. Possibly sticking the boot in whilst appearing to be concerned for LA.

But you still hit him and say its your fault, so a bell doesnt seem too much to ask. And its also the law, if you're into that kind of thing.

Nice post Tombeej. I've seen Burry ride against SA-pro roadies and he fits in fine against the best. You're right people riding drop-handlebar bikes in the 94.7, from the later letters of the alphabet groups onwards, are not "roadies". They're people on bikes. I've been a roadie for 8yrs but this year did mostly mtb as i was entering Transbaviaans. I was shocked at how much strength and endurance i didnt have when riding what i called "my clunky piece of ****". It took months to feel anyway confident to sit on that thing and work for 4hrs or more. So, having done that in August I did a 550km/ 4-day road tour in September & was shocked at how much slower up hills i was than before & how the top-end HR had gone. The easier gearing and the long endurance work killed these other aspects of my riding. There's no winning; but its still fun. & mtbers are in no way any more or less friendly than roadies.