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Stick around Boet, you aint seen NOTHING yet, best you HTFU very quickly

Dont worry about those OUTRIDERS . New Balance Multisport offers road running, trail running, road racing and MTBing. Pack runs and group rides weekly. Bring your sweeper vehicles and cash though http://www.newbalanceclub.com/join-the-club/sign-up

Racetec rocks!

I did exactly that , for the same reason. Loads of MTB entries for sale on the Hub, and late entries available at registration on Friday Give us the skinny, Last of what and why?

Step aside Marco Pantani

I don't disagree with you with regard to cycling being the ultimate loser, however CSA are the authors of their own misfortune in this instance. They are the antagonists, they walked away from the negotiating table, they provoked PPA who have a right to turn to the courts for redress, and they reneged on their original undertaking to PPA. Nobody can or should blame PPA for seeking judicial relief against the bullying CSA. PPA has 18300 members, and CSA 21000, yet PPA are only given 14/83 (17 percent) votes on the CSA board despite representing more than 85 percent of their members. I don't call this court action a "stunt", rather CSA forced PPA into a corner unilaterally so the latter used the only option available to protect the rights of it's members. The ball falls squarely into the court of CSA.

Ok I've joined TEAM FIRE. Maroesjka's bank balance should reflect a small spike shortly. CSA, shove it where the sun don't shine!

MERIDA BIG 99 PRO-XT 2013 http://www.merida-bikes.com/en_za/bike/2013/29/Full+Suspension/Big+Ninety-Nine+Pro+XT-Edition Full carbon dual susser frame with XT components, shouldn't set you back more than R25,500. Excellent value for money!

Howdy, Are you driving to Sabie via Blouberg? . Enjoy your week off.

Give us a clue how you believe you can help them, you big tease All hubbers are sworn to secrecy, we agreed to the terms and conditions when we signed up

When one can't blame the PPA for the SA Cycling's ills any longer, bring in da family to complicate matters

Why should anyone have to donate anything to talented cyclists to gain international exposure, surely that is CSA's purpose? I too donate to causes close to my heart regularly. I do this because I WANT to, not because I am compelled to (like CSA want to compel funriders to pay R75). PPA do indeed help their members, and many other organizations (as listed earlier) with their exceptional work province-wide. We all know how PPA spend their cash, they are transparent and honest. I have yet to hear, from anybody, what CSA have done with their cash over the past 12 months. Show us the balance sheet CSA, full income from all sources and expenditure. People conveniently expect too much of PPA, and too far little of CSA. Nobody seems able to answer that, including the CSA supporters. Funny that.

I merely used Icycling's example, with context and perspective. Using your example, your stepfather is feeding many more mouths than your biological father (who sounds like a loser, so you should seek legal emancipation). If the WPCA members are dual members of PPA, then CSA are getting their pound of flesh from their license fees anyway so what's the issue? PPA and CSA have separate objectives. PPA merely seek a declaratory order from the high court preventing CSA from prescribing to them and holding them to ransom. I REFUSE TO PAY R75 TO CSA BULLIES, SIMPLY COZ THEY DEMAND IT. I'd rather pay it voluntarily (which I already do). I have yet to hear what CSA did with it's abundant cashflow over the past 12 months. Read the PPA's founding high court affidavit on the website, it's illuminating. http://www.pedalpower.org.za/blog/news/ppa-and-csa-the-way-forward/

Regarding Steve's comment: PPA encourage riders at grassroots level, and then pass them on to CSA's provincial affiliate for further development. CSA has many income streams, it's not good enough for them to plead poverty and look to funriders to fund their core activity. Your example of the parent and kid is somewhat convoluted, Icycling. As it happens CSA is the self-appointed parent, by virtue of it's sanctimonious and dubious role as the sport's so-called "governing body". PPA is the ABUSED "child" (not the other way around). It's not the role of the child to finance the parent's TIK habits. The parent has effectively disowned the kid by writing him out of it's will. The parent has to take responsibility for it's own actions (or inactions), it cannot point fingers at the kid. The child, on the other hand, has managed his pocket money very well and just wants to ride his bike with his friends in his home province without having his piggy bank raided by the thieving parent. The parent is abusive and needs to be brought down a few notches by the kid, who has the law and public sentiment on his side. The parent needs to get his act together, which is why the kid is asking him to do what he originally undertook to. NOW THAT's SINFUL! Phew, speaking in the third person is tiring I just renewed my PPA membership, and really enjoyed spending that R295 KNOWING I will receive full value for every penny.

CSA does NOTHING to assist pro and talented riders, which is their function (not PPA) CSA want to compel leisure riders to cough up 75 Randelas, PPA membership is VOLUNTARY CSA have many income streams, PPA rely on membership fees and sponsorships PPA PROJECTS SUPPORTED IN 2012-2013 Cape Town Giants, Southern Suburbs Cedar High, Mitchells Plain Fairmount Secondary School, Lotus River Freewheelers Cycling Club, Steenberg Genesis BMX Club Heinz Park, Heinz Park Hex valley Secondary School, De Doorns Hout Bay Cycling Club, Hout Bay Kinetic Cycling Club, Bishop Lavis Lavendar Hill Secondary School Muhammadeyeh Cycling Club, Wynberg Rhadsport Cycling Club, Paarl Southern Cape Cycling Club, Oudtshoorn Southern Most Foundation Bredasdorp Steenberg High School, Steenberg Suburbs Cycling Club, southern Suburbs Yep Clan, Khayelitsha OTHER INITIATIVES Bike to work days Helmet handouts Safety ad campaign Commuting (incl. video) Safe Cycling Courses PPA OWN EVENTS Heels on Wheels – females only (Road) Schapenberg MTB – generic (mountain) Tread Lightly – females only (mountain) Tour de PPA – (Road) OTHER PROJECTS Western Province Schools Cycling Academy – fund development team to attend CSA Youth Festival Bicycle Empowerment Network (BEN) Mobility programme Botrivier Secondary School – BMX’s Chaeli Campaign – tandem for disabled cyclist New Mountain Bike trails in Genadendal/Greyton region Upgrade of Kraaifontain BMX track SANPARKS Tokai – upgrades and trail maintenance on Mtb trails Show me what CSA did for cycling in the past year, other than blowing smoke up their own backsides, and where the money went. They're too busy stuffing around with constitution wordings and flying first class to get on with their core function. They believe their very existence entitles them to levy fees, what a load of bollocks. CSA deserve what they get, and I for one hope that's a bloody nose in court. Leisure riders would be more inclined to support them IF they actually did anything useful!

Just browsed through the Knysna Cycle Tour website. Apparently it's "mandatory for all pro riders to donate 10 percent of their winnings to CSA". What a racket. Firstly CSA don't contribute to the development of young talent, then, to add insult to injury, they compel them to fund their back pockets in perpetuity. CSA are nothing less than cycling pimps with official badges HAMBA!

Howzitsports is absolute RUBBISH. You may have had a good experience with them, and for that you should thank your lucky stars, but for my money and appalling experience I would recommend everybody steer clear of them like bubonic plague. The service is horrendous, the promises plenty, the product average.

Based on the strength of HUB support alone (including non-PPA members not residing in the Western Cape), I suspect members would tell PPA to do exactly what they have done by approaching the courts. CSA is a leech at best. At worst they're a boil that needs to be lanced.

Men over 40 should have their prostates checked, THAT's advice everyone should listen to. As for the triathlon thumb-suck, I've binned it already, the authors probably get paid by the word. Numbskulls!

You two should kiss and make up, both appear to be on the same anti-CSA team.

Bah humbug, CSA doth protest too much methinks. Let them argue their dodgy merits in the Cape High Court, they are after all the antagonists in the battle for Cape Funrider cash.

I suspect PPA is perfectly happy to remain in the Western Cape , unfortunately CSA want to NATIONALISE the goldmine PPA and e-TROLL funriders without giving us ANY benefit whatsoever. The return on PPA fees is tangible, the return on CSA fees is a big fat zero whichever way anyone wants to spin it.