Jewbacca

There was a guy on one of those electric one wheel things pushing people up suikerbossie too hahahaha

There is also a case of looking at the route and planning from there. A sub3 timeline has things centred around 10 minutes ish max effort, so that's Smits, Chappies, Suikerbossie etc all 10 minutes or less. So can you push for 10 minutes and then recover enough while pushing out enough wattage to be comfortable in the group AND eat and drink in the group without being a wobbly wheel? Too many people can push the watts but then really struggle to control their bike while handling bottles and food etc Reading the wheels and having good bike skills also helps. Those who can flow and predict/read where to be will use a lot less energy than those who cannot

hahahahahaha I am really chilled, but that is pure idiocy. The cyclists were in bad shape, one carted away on a stretcher, neck brace and in the ambulance. She chose to run into the road without looking and hurt other people. I have no sympathy

No sympathy for her... she is from the jewellery shop and tried to cross the road without looking and walked straight out in front of a few guys barreling down main road Idiot

Looks like it's shrunk a bit over the years........

Arent they splitting the lane at the top with a divider and the cones to stop people using the far lane? That's how I read it Either way, I'm glad I care not for a sub3 anymore. I'm way more comfortable yabbering with my mates and stopping for coffee and cake

I guess it also comes back to the conduct of the cyclists. It's 5km in, if everybody knows it's a dodgy section and realistically the race can't be won there, why not just ride together at a mild panic instead of absolute do or die sillyness? We all control how we conduct ourselves, so if people are playing argy bargy on hospital bend while sitting in the group, then the issue is with them. Block them out or give them a mouthful. Talk about it together in the start chute. It's always been a dangerous part of the race, but also a place of almost no consequence, so I don't understand why people in the racing group need to ride aggressively there. You have a better chance of a sub3 if more of you stay upright and together

I'm with the others, that is a cosmetic flat spot, surely?! That still has thousands of km left in it!

I'm a massive SPANK fanboy I find their rims build up easier and they work better with tires/tubeless systems. The nipple cracking aside, they seem to offer a better product. Stans are much like Campy in my mind, they are popular because they were brand leaders at the beginning, so people kept using them and recommending them well past their hey day while other companies caught up and surpassed them. The traditionalist die hards will all nay say because 'they WERE the best and did so much for the sport' and 'their first 2009 tubeless rims were the BEST' etc.... Anyway, I'd make the effort to get the Spank, but I'm sure others will say otherwise

The weight is also way less important as 'most' people using the bike for it's intended application winch the bike up the hills and bomb descents. There are likely knee pads round the ankles and a lot of chatting (and complaining) while in super easy gears climbing back up to the trail head. It's a trail bike, it climbs 'well' and descends better.... The wheel/tire/insert/sealant combo is probably 5.5kg or more anyway!

Easy for you to be an aggressive keyboard warrior hiding behind your hub name...........

this thread is starting to resemble drivers complaining about the amount of cars on the road causing traffic while driving a car on the road. Other road users are other road users. Just because they aren't the same sub group as you doesn't make them less or more deserving to be there. The traffic! The traffic! Says everybody alone in their car who IS the traffic. It does also highlight a distinct irony that as cyclists you ask for better acceptance from cars to make the road safer while in the same breath say how annoying runners are for using the same road as you Anyway, as you were

One day when I'm big..... Give it horns @Mamil!

This is VERY true. Transferring weight, pumping, time in the air.... It translates to all bike riding

I always assumed you had run tons and tons of marathons. Here is my very unscientific strategy to marathon running, bearing in mind I don't regard a marathon as a long way. When you think 'ah, road marathon, lets do it!' I don't think one should have any sort of time goals until you've run a few. The body reacts differently on different days, so having experience at a comfortable pace is pretty essential. It allows you to have a base line moving pace 'bail out' for when you catch a carrot. One thing I can tell you is that you WILL catch a carrot some days, and all the training, prep and diet won't stop you from having a bad day. What makes the bad days bearable is the 'ag, lets run through this at a pace I know I can go forever'.. I default One only develops this after time. One only becomes confident in this after more time. Too many people rush into marathons with time goals without really going through the process of experience. This generally leads to injuries, niggles and failed attempts at fast times and then quitting. I'm not saying this is you, just sharing my experience. I'm slow these days, but I've been well under 3h for a marathon and 30 mins for 10k at various stages of my life. The current aim is to get back to 'around 3:10-3:15' over the next 18 months

Don't you get one in your goody bag anyway? Why even question it? Just use the one in the goody bag?

hahahaha You're bang on track if you're teaching skillz, a love and passion for riding and encouraging fun. I think people are against teaching kids how to RACE with pressure and expectation. This usually involves some form of structured training, which compounds the pressure. Skills are essential for fun, teach but don't be annoyed when they don't want to listen. Maybe the heading should be 'How do I keep my son interested in riding forever from a young age, as opposed to including a race element? RE the surfing...... I surf a lot, it pains me when I see the groms annoyed out in the water when they aren't shredding hard enough or landing whirly airs. As a 40 something kook for life I get so stoked just being out in the water. I'd guess that translated back into riding bikes. It should make you happy, especially as a kid

Following on from that, what motivates you to STILL risk 'another' sub3 if you believe it's THAT dangerous? I'm no stranger to training and doing well at various races. I know I'm one of the few people to have run 13 peaks in under 15 hours. But I'm not sold on doing the same event every year as fast as I possibly can every year, especially if there is considerable risk involved. My brain doesn't compute the risk/reward if it is bad as everyone says, if you've done it many times before

All this talk of how dodgy it is. To the guys who have ridden many sub 3s, no longer race to win but still get stressed over their start group, how many sub3s is enough? I'm really interested in the Psyche behind the stress, the risk and the perceived reward, especially if you're that uncertain and unhappy with the start/group conditions. This isn't a dig at anyone before people start getting defensive and attack me. I am genuinely interested in the motive because my brain isn't wired like that

@'Dale holy smokes dude! I'm so sorry. That whole area has CCTV, as well as number plate recognition around the park and stadium, so hopefully they get the guy. Sending all the healing vibes. Stoked it's not another head injury though. ❤️

I agree. I always lose it when the chasing group starts looking around as though they expect something to suddenly happen. Chase! It's a HUGE effort for somebody planning on winning two GTs in a month in the not so distant future. Super clever break though. Put a team mate on his wheel to block, made sure Pidcock (who was probably the only guy there who could match that explosion) wasn't there and just went. BOOM

Pog just out for a saturday solo ride......

Why not? I ride in Jean shorts most of the time. Even done Swartberg Gran Fondo and a heap of other long stuff as well as Stage races and other stuff in them, not just quick spins. You guys are soft..........

I thought his court dates were set for mid March? The police took blood at the scene and the video footage is pretty conclusive. IF the blood tests and arrest procedures were done correctly, he is in quite a bit of trouble. The on scene blood tests all confirmed he was well over the limit, but the blood tests are the clincher. Anyway, lets see. I'm over all the conjecture and whataboutism involving these things. I will await the outcome, but not actively. Baying for blood and justice for things outside of my control just shortens my life and takes away some quality

I'd guess it's about the dude who was hit over christmas by the navy guy early doors near Glencairn. He is recovering and learning to walk again. The perp is still awaiting trial, which is why they have to use the word 'allegedly'....