Cricket......

[Stretch]

Oh drat 2 wickets in add many balls.. Fortunately only 20 to get

['Dale]

Would've loved some more Abraham fireworks...

[Mntboy]

I have wholehearted disagree. Fast bowlers should be aggressive - this isn't a bookclub for crying out loud. What is worse is that other players can say the exact same thing he did, but if it's not picked up on the microphones, nothing will happen to them.

 

All out sports are so sanitised these days. We need the McEnroe's and Merv Hughes in our sports.

You can be aggressive without getting yourself banned and unfortunately that is what KG needs to learn. And sooner rather than later too.

You also need to draw a line somewhere. All players know where the line is.

Very true.

 

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[Stretch]

Ok.. Looked at it as best I could find quickly while at work... The screaming was borderline.. But the intentional shoulder drop was not on.. And being in his position with demerit points already too his name he should have known better. Poor form and irresponsible

[Capricorn]

You also need to draw a line somewhere. All players know where the line is.

shouting yes at the turf, while walking past the offending batsman is hardly confrontational, nor is when both parties decide to bump shoulders in a very gentlemanly fashion.

What the aussies do out of range of the stump mics is despicable. M Marsh is proof of it. He just forgot there's more than just the stump mic.

Edited March 12, 2018 by Capricorn

[Patchelicious]

shouting yes at the turf, while walking past the offending batsman is hardly confrontational, nor is when both parties decide to bump shoulders in a very gentlemanly fashion.

What the aussies do out of range of the stump mics is despicable. M Marsh is proof of it. He just forgot there's more than just the stump mic.

As much as I dislike that Warner guy, calling his face "turf" is not cricket

[Mntboy]

A good win in the end despite the heavy weather our batsmen made of it.

 

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[leeubok]

All the non cricket stuff aside, good win! We still have a couple of weaknesses to sort out if we wish to win this series.

 

Amla needs to urgently find form or get dropped. Perhaps time to let De Kock open with Elgar and bring in Klaasen? Klaasen can even share keeping duties with de Kock

Elgar also needs to score some runs. He just doesn't look comfortable, ever.

Actually, I'll have to mention every batsman except AB. If it wasn't for AB's 100 we would've lost this game as well. 

 

Assuming Rabada gets banned, I would bring Morkel back in his place and Morris for de Bruyn. And Klaasen for Amla.

[Mntboy]

All the non cricket stuff aside, good win! We still have a couple of weaknesses to sort out if we wish to win this series.

 

Amla needs to urgently find form or get dropped. Perhaps time to let De Kock open with Elgar and bring in Klaasen? Klaasen can even share keeping duties with de Kock

Elgar also needs to score some runs. He just doesn't look comfortable, ever.

Actually, I'll have to mention every batsman except AB. If it wasn't for AB's 100 we would've lost this game as well.

 

Assuming Rabada gets banned, I would bring Morkel back in his place and Morris for de Bruyn. And Klaasen for Amla.

So your team in batting order would be:

Elgar, QdK, Markram, AB, FdP, Klaasen, Morris, Vern, Maharaj, Morkel & Ngidi?

 

Not quite the team i'd have but I quite agree that our batting unit needs to come to the party far more than what they have. Generally never a good idea to have a non opener open the batting. Kuhn being a case in point. Also not convinced of two wicket keepers in the same eleven even if both are competent batsmen. And I'm not sure that I'd ever consider both QdK and Klaasen simply as a batsman alone for the exception of one day/T20 matches. Replace a specialist batsman with a specialist batsman. Bavuma for De Bruyn imho. Morkel for Rabada. My team would then be:

Elgar, Markram, Hash, AB, FdP, Bavuma, QdK, Vern, Maharaj, Morkel, Ngidi.

 

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[Shebeen]

All the non cricket stuff aside, good win! We still have a couple of weaknesses to sort out if we wish to win this series.

 

Amla needs to urgently find form or get dropped. Perhaps time to let De Kock open with Elgar and bring in Klaasen? Klaasen can even share keeping duties with de Kock

Elgar also needs to score some runs. He just doesn't look comfortable, ever.

Actually, I'll have to mention every batsman except AB. If it wasn't for AB's 100 we would've lost this game as well. 

 

Assuming Rabada gets banned, I would bring Morkel back in his place and Morris for de Bruyn. And Klaasen for Amla.

 

should have could have would have, but we would have won the previous test if Starc didn't have a (allegedly doctored) ball swinging like a banana.

 

 

Rabada is banned.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22732916/kagiso-rabada-handed-two-test-suspension

 

I think there might be enough time to appeal it before the next game.

Morkel is a capable replacement, a fit and rearing Steyn would be even better

[leeubok]

So your team in batting order would be:

Elgar, QdK, Markram, AB, FdP, Klaasen, Morris, Vern, Maharaj, Morkel & Ngidi?

 

Not quite the team i'd have but I quite agree that our batting unit needs to come to the party far more than what they have. Generally never a good idea to have a non opener open the batting. Kuhn being a case in point. Also not convinced of two wicket keepers in the same eleven even if both are competent batsmen. And I'm not sure that I'd ever consider both QdK and Klaasen simply as a batsman alone for the exception of one day/T20 matches. Replace a specialist batsman with a specialist batsman. Bavuma for De Bruyn imho. Morkel for Rabada. My team would then be:

Elgar, Markram, Hash, AB, FdP, Bavuma, QdK, Vern, Maharaj, Morkel, Ngidi.

 

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That's a pretty good team selection, probably better than mine. My only concern is I don't have faith in those 4 bowlers to bowl the aussies out twice, cheaply enough to win a test. At Newlands big Vern should be a handful, and Morkel should be pumped up to perform in his 2nd last game for SA. But I think we miss that Kallis type allrounder who can score some big runs plus take a wicket or 3.

 

De Kock has opened the batting plenty times before, but because he's wicketkeeper they move him down the order to lessen his load. Perhaps keep Markram and Elgar as openers but then have Faf, AB, De Kock, Klaasen/Bavuma/De Bruyn, Morris, Philander, Maharaj, Ngidi, Morkel. Bavuma probably deserves to come back into the 6 spot, although his stats show he hasn't quite lived up to expectations. 

 

But they probably won't make any changes. Amla will never get dropped. Morkel will probably come in for Rabada and Bavuma for De Bruyn if he is 100% over his finger injury.

[Capricorn]

As much as I dislike that Warner guy, calling his face "turf" is not cricket

hahhah lekker snaaks!

['Dale]

All the non cricket stuff aside, good win! We still have a couple of weaknesses to sort out if we wish to win this series.

 

Amla needs to urgently find form or get dropped. Perhaps time to let De Kock open with Elgar and bring in Klaasen? Klaasen can even share keeping duties with de Kock

Elgar also needs to score some runs. He just doesn't look comfortable, ever.

Actually, I'll have to mention every batsman except AB. If it wasn't for AB's 100 we would've lost this game as well. 

 

Assuming Rabada gets banned, I would bring Morkel back in his place and Morris for de Bruyn. And Klaasen for Amla.

 

Morkel definitely.

He will be hungry to perform.

 

Amla is definitely not resting unless he's injured or have a life crisis.

 

De Bruyn - hmmm

Maybe keep him in place for the rest of the series.

I hope the selectors can as it will be fair on him to get a good run and prove himself.

[Mntboy]

 

 

That's a pretty good team selection, probably better than mine. My only concern is I don't have faith in those 4 bowlers to bowl the aussies out twice, cheaply enough to win a test. At Newlands big Vern should be a handful, and Morkel should be pumped up to perform in his 2nd last game for SA. But I think we miss that Kallis type allrounder who can score some big runs plus take a wicket or 3.

 

De Kock has opened the batting plenty times before, but because he's wicketkeeper they move him down the order to lessen his load. Perhaps keep Markram and Elgar as openers but then have Faf, AB, De Kock, Klaasen/Bavuma/De Bruyn, Morris, Philander, Maharaj, Ngidi, Morkel. Bavuma probably deserves to come back into the 6 spot, although his stats show he hasn't quite lived up to expectations.

 

But they probably won't make any changes. Amla will never get dropped. Morkel will probably come in for Rabada and Bavuma for De Bruyn if he is 100% over his finger injury.

I do to a degree. I just think that a need to be bang on with the team bowling plans and 100% correct in the excution of the plans. That said if Steyn was match fit I would have him in the team. He remains a class act and would be highly motivated to get a win out of this series. I think Morkel is too but is unfortunately a different type of bowler to Rabada/Steyn and light of it the coaching team needs to be clear with him as to his role and responsibility within the attack. Morkel can lead, he showed it in India. And that's what we are going to need from him. And a Newlands test does generally see a very good to brilliant performance from Vern. Our bowlers have been holding their own and someone has been stepping up each dig so far.

 

With Bavuma I kinda agree I still feel there's a need for him to work on his conversion rates (starts to 50's, 50's to 100's). However I felt that before his injury he had been in good nick and playing with confidence and was looking like a second test hundred was around the corner, which really would boost his confidence even more. And he's good when we're in a jam. De Bruyn has yet to convince me he is long term test prospect. Got the talent though. In general though I still feel that our batsmen need to make more of an impact in the series. AB being the exception.

 

Wiaan Mulder has the potential to be the JK kind of allrounder but hasn't been tried yet and I don't think that the selectors would suddenly throw him into the deep end. Would love to see him get a run when we play a team like Sri Lanka. He is a real talent who could make the step up to International level.

 

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[Mntboy]

should have could have would have, but we would have won the previous test if Starc didn't have a (allegedly doctored) ball swinging like a banana.

 

 

Rabada is banned.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22732916/kagiso-rabada-handed-two-test-suspension

 

I think there might be enough time to appeal it before the next game.

Morkel is a capable replacement, a fit and rearing Steyn would be even better

Sadly Steyn is only available for the fourth test. He would be a real boost to our bowling unit.

 

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[leeubok]

The problem with including Steyn in the team is that you don't know if he's going to make it a full 5 days without breaking down.. If you select Steyn you have to include an extra bowler/allrounder to lessen the load if Steyn pulls up again. But yes I agree with you guys, a fit Steyn will always make my team 

 

Perhaps Dale is right, maybe De Bruyn deserves to play the remaining two tests to have a decent chance of proving himself. And perhaps Klaasen will have to wait a little longer before he gets his chance. 

 

Whatever the selectors decide, they better get it right. We can't lose the series to these aussie a-holes!