PPA cut cord with CSA

[Danger Dassie]

Anyone saw the Bellairs interview on Supercycling this week?

 

Mention was made about the PPA and their allegiance to the CSA constitutional process, currently undergo.

 

*slang in die gras*

 

Notice how terse Bellairs got when pressed for more details by Andrew.

[Eugene Oppelt]

Notice how terse Bellairs got when pressed for more details by Andrew.

 

It was obvious...

The interview was then switched to another topic...

[Eugene Oppelt]

Politics...

Tch!

[Eugene Oppelt]

So, what I heard was that the new Constitution for CSA will be voted on this weekend and that the PPA will not be present at the meeting...

[andydude]

anyone else who agrees Argus is a bit on the expensice side? . Big walk has always been R50, so why do they need to charge R300 and even R600 for sustitution entries. Whoever must be making truckoads of money and from what I understand the city closes roads, not paid for through our entry fees, or am i missing something?

 

I shudder to think about the possible bruises, broken skin, bones when a walker gets switched in a group...

 

I don't think a few million will even fill up my boot, not even contemplating a truck!

Edited February 16, 2012 by andydude

[capesean]

I can't believe how some people are complaining about the costs of the Argus or the setup with PPA. Seriously?!

 

The Argus costs about the same as a round of golf. For that price, they close off some of the most beautiful roads in the world - let me reiterate that: in the world! Practically an entire city has to make do with traffic closures. There are emergency services, refreshment stops, etc. etc. etc.

 

What do you get for that on a golf course? Seriously, WTF?!

 

Someone complained that it should be lower because it costs a lot to get there - well the price of playing at St Andrews isn't lower just because it would cost me an international flight to get there. How illogical is that - take your complaint to the airlines, not the Argus organisers.

 

And criticising the PPA? Jeez, guys - what more do you want? Be careful of wishing for their demise, you might just get what you want. Personally, I am more than happy with their product & service. They're doing a fantastic job and I can't imagine anyone else getting as much right for such a reasonable fee.

 

Viva PPA

[capesean]

And let me just add, paying to ride in a race is not the same as paying to have a company host your timed results online for perpetuity. It is a simple concept.

[Eugene Oppelt]

I think you guys need to look at this a bit more objectively and with a better understanding of the two orgs.

 

CSA is nothing like PPA, they are totally different in terms of their mandates, level of competence, willingness to communicate with cyclists, the list is endless. PPA is not perfect, they take a lot of flack from me included, but without them we'd really be losing out on a lot.

 

Bottom line is you need to work with them if you want to help cycling in the Western Cape and retain the Argus as an internationally renowned event.

 

Cool post!

[FrankTank]

PPA's response:

http://www.pedalpowe...a-ppa-response/

 

"The minutes of the Meeting of 18 February 2012 reflect that PPA has 17990 individual members, which is 53.53% of all the individual cyclists who are members of cycling organisations affiliated to CSA. The votes allocated to PPA was 15 out of 83, which is only 18%."

 

"Since the 2004 Constitution was adopted, the PPA has paid the following amounts to CSA, for which it has received little or no benefit:

1. Initially, when CSA did not have any funds, PPA undertook and paid for the salary of CSA’s employees for a period of two years. The amount paid to CSA in this regard totalled R551 000;

2. Calendar fees of R43 115;

3. Membership levies of R2 128 087;

4. PPA has collected and paid to CSA day license fees of R66 416."

 

"The 2012 Constitution voting provisions are undemocratic. It provides for one vote per member for each of the Provincial Members. This means that Northern Cape with 98 members has the same voting powers as Western Cape, having 552 members plus PPA’s 17990 members."

 

Summary: CSA wants all the power and money...

Edited February 28, 2012 by FrankTank

[slabs]

And now from the Joberg2C organisers:

Important news from the Old Mutual joBerg2c organisers:

CSA Licenses: We have been informed that Cycling South Africa is enforcing a day license fee of R35.00 per day if riders are not licensed already. Riders can pay R315 at registration or join CSA by the 30th March 2012 and pay only R75.00 for an annual membership.

 

You will also need to join a club - there are some reasonable clubs around.

...

Visit www.cyclingsa.com for more information.

 

This will not apply to overseas entrants!

[Thug]

edit: posted in the incorrect thread

Edited February 28, 2012 by Thug

[Spat]

Have you renewed your PPA membership as yet?

 

I am still waiting to hear about progress on PPA and CSA split and how things will work in the coming season.

 

PPA very quiet on this front, email to them on the point and no response.

[mulmi]

Can anyone get hold of the ppa site. Nothing is working there just some overseas site called pedal

[BergForce]

This split is bad for the cyclist. It means that basically the cyclist now has to pay to belong to a CSA affiliated club, then pay his CSA annual license, and pay his PPA annual license.

 

I wonder if PPA will decrease their annual license fee now that a CSA license is not included?

Edited July 16, 2012 by Berg Bok

[Cippo]

Nothing in newsletter of CSA licence included. Cost is R285 as per newsletter.

[Cippo]

Can anyone get hold of the ppa site. Nothing is working there just some overseas site called pedal

 

http://www.pedalpower.org.za/

 

Its working as far as I can see.