TNOSE_E Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 As a side note on that.....it has now been downgraded again.You can get Sinucon OTC but in limited quantities. Great for flu but contains small amounts of Ephidrine. Enough to have it at DrugfreeSA as "permitted outside racing". So you can get it OTC these days again.Tik boys.....take note. Got Sinumax (blue box) over the counter at Dischem this week.
Slowbee Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Spidey ... http://www.mims.co.uk/ or drop me a mail for copy we can order you through the practice ... we get then from these people. The 2012 book, is about R1000 give or take http://www.avusa.co.za/businesses/books-2/
Eldron Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Ephedrine is not used any more and pseudoephedrine is now a scheduled drug so nothing over the counter and no supplements contain it. Guys were using it to make tik so it got canned as an over the counter ingredient. Thinz used to contain it but not for a few years now. Not sure about the rest of the ingredients but those two I am pretty certain of. It would be impossible for USN to use them. I would imagine most accidental supplements that contain illegals are caused by cross contamination of product from mixers. Most "manufacturers" use a sub contract mixer to blend their products - failure to clean the mixers before moving to a new batch can potentially put illegals in supplements. The next issue is the ingredients - if the QC in those is not up to standard there could be illegals in there - or cross contamination from blending the ingredients. There really is no real way of knowing if your supplement has illegals or not. Of course USN and the rest will say "we cannot guarantee that there are no illegals in any of our products" - the official line seems to be "we try but if you're in doubt don't use them"... It's a sad state of affairs for us "part timers" who try and ride clean. There really is no way of knowing if your product is legal or not. It is entriely possible that Russell tested positive due to accidental contamination - if that is the case then I apologise for wanting to shoot you in the kneecaps. If you took in on purpose then I hope you slip up shaving your legs and cut your achilles tendon in half you cheating swine. Please delete whichever is inappropriate.
TNT1 Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Highjack on. Where can I get a MIMS??!?!?!? Can't convince any living creature up here to give me one..... My dad had one when I was little..... Have no idea. I used to get mine from my pharmacist. Try: http://ebookbrowse.com/mims-drugs-in-sport-doc-d85553200 Or contact Drug Free Sport SA and ask them?
TNT1 Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Another stone in the bush....... Why test ANYTHING or ANYONE else than an Elite rider??This sort off correlates to the whole seeding/Cat/blah blah debacle..... But it truely is a South African phenom......racing as a funrider.....hehehehehhe Why not TEST more but use the budget on the guys that cycles for a living.Thus taking away podiums and cash and and and away from ALL other categories and clasifying it as Open seeded / Fun groups..... More focus on the racing side and less about what the funriders does.......for fun. Just a question though...... FFS! If they do that, OB will come out of forced retirement and rape you funriders broken.
Lucky Luke. Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) I would imagine most accidental supplements that contain illegals are caused by cross contamination of product from mixers. Most "manufacturers" use a sub contract mixer to blend their products - failure to clean the mixers before moving to a new batch can potentially put illegals in supplements. The next issue is the ingredients - if the QC in those is not up to standard there could be illegals in there - or cross contamination from blending the ingredients. There really is no real way of knowing if your supplement has illegals or not. Of course USN and the rest will say "we cannot guarantee that there are no illegals in any of our products" - the official line seems to be "we try but if you're in doubt don't use them"... It's a sad state of affairs for us "part timers" who try and ride clean. There really is no way of knowing if your product is legal or not. It is entriely possible that Russell tested positive due to accidental contamination - if that is the case then I apologise for wanting to shoot you in the kneecaps. If you took in on purpose then I hope you slip up shaving your legs and cut your achilles tendon in half you cheating swine. Please delete whichever is inappropriate. Yep, tough to know but I think you can improve your chances dramatically by only using certain brands As for the positive in question, I'm sure we'd have heard by now if there was cause for any doubt. I'm told it's easy enough to get products that will actually give you significant gains vs. over the counter stuff and I'm also more certain than not that there are other amateurs out there doping it up with malice of forethought so I'm pleased to hear it's a little less easy to do than it used to be. And if not and the dopers continue to give me a hiding, at least my livelihood is not at stake.. which it will be if I don't stop blabbing here and do some work Edited February 9, 2012 by Lucky Luke.
andydude Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 put the popcorn away, this discussion has been taken offline Can you pm it to me out of interest?
Lucky Luke. Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Can you pm it to me out of interest? No can do, sorry. Just ask John when you see him.
The Drongo Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 So let me get this straight. Just in case I have eaten a 'roided cow lately...... How does this testing thing work?Like, if I come 50 out of 300 in 2009, then 30 out of 300 in 2010, then 21 out of 300 in 2011 (deep breath) and then 3 out of 300 in 2012, is some lady in a nurse outfit going to accost me at the finish line and ask me to pee in a branded water bottle? Then ROAG is going to send me an email saying that I ain't welcome at any more 'races'? Howzit work? Or am I safe from molestation and embarrassment because I have never appeared on the cover of Ride mag? I won a 25k race right back when I started this lark, only cause there was no one in front to hold me up. The finish okes didn't even know I had come in till 10 minutes after I did. I didn't even get handed a free Aquelle, let alone asked to pee in the bottle! I migrated to 45+'s after that and I have been losing ever since. BTW, who is Lussel Rund anyway?
The Drongo Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 No can do, sorry. Just ask John when you see him. John? John who? Stop name dropping nubbin!
fandacious Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 John? John who? Stop name dropping nubbin! john rambo
Slowbee Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Very pleased to see that Ex colonel is still involved in cycling.
Velouria Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Very pleased to see that Ex colonel is still involved in cycling. He even got a mention on Super Cycling this week.
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