Prof Tim Noakes' U-turn on Carbohydrates

[Topwine]

That's exactly what he was saying. Effectively that the older you get, the more "toxic" the glucose gets for you. And what are refined carbohydrates & starchy foods? Pure glucose.

 

He put that the brain relies on fats and proteins in order to live and thrive, and carry on firing properly. Quite logical, really, seeing as the brain is a collection of fats and proteins and has no glucose properties whatsoever... He went further and proposed that Alzheimers may in fact be caused by the insistence of a high carbohydrate diet. Effectively poisoning the brain.

 

Not only alzheimers, but also prevention of cancer, dementia, artritis, heart disease and maybe many more. All linked to the inflamation caused by the high blood glucose caused by too much carbs and sugar intake from your diet. For a good read, read this article: Sugar is toxic,

 

http://patientcircle...ugar-toxic.html

Edited September 19, 2012 by Topwine

[Lucky Luke.]

So what is a common sense approach?

 

When I need to lose weight I write down everything I eat. I cut out sugar, starchy stuff, high GI carbs and other stimulants - one cup of coffee a day for me - cut out alcohol too, as much as possible. Eat slow release energy foods - low GI stuff - and raw veg - stuff that keeps you full for longer. Don't eat too much at night. Exercise first thing in the morning to train your body to burn fat for fuel.

 

Actually I had a read of Noakes' list of foods to eat and after taking a proper look I agree with most of what he says. What irked me was the fact that he advocated the opposite for years and then announced in the popular press that actually this is the correct way to eat now. It made it seem like another fad diet which was not too dissimilar to Atkins.

 

Everything Noakes says also presupposes that you're getting some exercise, and my feeling is, for most people - athletes excluded - when starting a diet, they're focusing too much on what to eat or not to eat, and not enough on finding a sustainable routine that involves being active - basically a sport or a hobby that keeps them fit and fires up their metabolism.

[Lucky Luke.]

You might like to research Tim Noakes 's background and read properly all his writings before you want to make a comment like that. Further, Tim Noakes is only trying to make popular a diet lifestyle that is quickly making headway in the rest of the world. It is funny, before 1965, it was actually recognized that a high carbohydrate makes you fat ! Big business had other plans in the interim though.

 

Yep, I totally agree that at a consumer level we've been conditioned and continue to be conditioned to eat crap, solely to benefit the bottom line of big corporates who are doing damage to human health on a massive scale. Food Inc is an eye-opener of a documentary which gives you the extreme US perspective.

 

Edit: here it is on Vimeo in full.

 

http://vimeo.com/30620523

Edited September 20, 2012 by Lucky Luke.

[Richard 1973]

When I need to lose weight I write down everything I eat. I cut out sugar, starchy stuff, high GI carbs and other stimulants - one cup of coffee a day for me - cut out alcohol too, as much as possible. Eat slow release energy foods - low GI stuff - and raw veg - stuff that keeps you full for longer. Don't eat too much at night. Exercise first thing in the morning to train your body to burn fat for fuel.

 

Actually I had a read of Noakes' list of foods to eat and after taking a proper look I agree with most of what he says. What irked me was the fact that he advocated the opposite for years and then announced in the popular press that actually this is the correct way to eat now. It made it seem like another fad diet which was not too dissimilar to Atkins.

 

Everything Noakes says also presupposes that you're getting some exercise, and my feeling is, for most people - athletes excluded - when starting a diet, they're focusing too much on what to eat or not to eat, and not enough on finding a sustainable routine that involves being active - basically a sport or a hobby that keeps them fit and fires up their metabolism.

 

I am the same with my "common sense" eating, the only thing different perhaps is that I get 60-70% of my calories from healthy fats, animal fats (skin on chicken, fat on meat) Nuts (almonds), avocados, cheese and cream cheese and olive oil. Once I added those fats, no more problem with weight and no hunger. I just needed to understand that fats especially saturated fats are good for me.

 

I took TN's turn around as a positive thing in that when you are presented with evidence that disproves a common theory, then dump the theory immediately and form a new theory based on the evidence.

 

For me his acknowledgement "gave" me permission to investigate what this was all about, before he said it I didn't pay any attention to the LCHF/Paleo/Banting/Atkins world.

[Tumbleweed]

Is Tim Noakes the Malema of medicine?

 

 

http://mg.co.za/article/2012-09-21-00-is-tim-noakes-the-malema-of-medicine/

[scotty]

Noakes has never said this and mentioned from the start that it will not suit everybody (pun intended)

 

"A group of six doctors, comprising cardiologists and University of Cape Town academics, have written to the

Cape Times

suggesting that Noakes has gone too far in claiming his low-carb, high-fat diet is suitable for all patients"

[Topwine]

Is Tim Noakes the Malema of medicine?

 

 

http://mg.co.za/arti...ma-of-medicine/

 

These so called "doctors" are just jealous of Prof Tim Noakes. Comparing him to Malema shows a lot of their intellect imo.

 

I agree prof Noakes quote : "doctors are pill pushers "

 

Just as traditional doctors acts as "agents of the pharmaceutical companies", who have a financial interest in keeping their patients sick." so does Malema and the government have a financial interest in keeping their followers uneducated and stupid.

 

Prof Tim Noakes can hardly be described as someone who wishes people to stay uninformed.

Edited September 21, 2012 by Topwine

[BigGuy]

For me his acknowledgement "gave" me permission to investigate what this was all about, before he said it I didn't pay any attention to the LCHF/Paleo/Banting/Atkins world.

There was also the one called The Drinking Man's Diet. My dad showed me the booklet the other day, printed almost 50 years ago. He has been living the theory for decades, and that would explain the bottle of wine per meal. Think it was used by the RAF to get their pilots down to size. Involved a lot of whiskey and wine consumption while cutting out starches. Eat meat and wash it down with non-sugary alcohol (iow no sletsappies allowed).

Edited September 21, 2012 by BigGuy

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

There was also the one called The Drinking Man's Diet. My dad showed me the booklet the other day, printed almost 50 years ago. He has been living the theory for decades, and that would explain the bottle of wine per meal. Think it was used by the RAF to get their pilots down to size. Involved a lot of whiskey and wine consumption while cutting out starches. Eat meat and wash it down with non-sugary alcohol (iow no sletsappies allowed).

 

I like that... Love my wine & whiskey. Trying to get rid of the beer, but that's easier said than done.

[Sharkie 2]

The majority of doctors are just pill pushers, I have been struggling with illness the last two weeks and keep on getting more pills every time and injections, not once has any one of the two doctors I have seen sent me for a scan or a sonar on my abdomen to see what may be wrong. Seeing a specialist on Monday now after I insisted from the doctor to give me a referral.

 

Prof Tim Noakes does countless studies before he publishes things and he said many times that this will not work for everyone

[Tumbleweed]

I like that... Love my wine & whiskey. Trying to get rid of the beer, but that's easier said than done.

 

Help is at hand, my friend:

 

The Beer Drinkers Guide to Losing Weight

 

Exactly what the title suggests – and proven by Neil Manthorp. Written with biokinesticist Paddy Upton this is a practical guide to keeping fit, losing weight if you need to and still enjoying a cold beer or two.

Would you like to lose weight and get fit but don’t want to give up a beer or two or three?

Do you find it impossible to stick to “diets” because you are travelling, busy and enjoy going out with your mates or your family?

Let me share the secrets I have discovered and are proven to work for you as well.

No diet meals. No special pills. No calorie counting.

You do not need to give up beer to lose your beer belly

[andydude]

You know what I like about the prof? He actually goes to look at the big picture and try to ascertain the reasons. Big pharma and indirectly the doctors who gets pills and procedures pushed by pharma doesn't really care, except for the bottom line.

 

For example:

 

In 1900 when most Americans cooked in lard and ate a diet full of butter and dairy produce, pork and saturated fat in meat (but low in sugar and processed foods), heart disease was so rare that their most famous cardiologist, Dr Paul Dudley White, encountered his first case only in the 1920s (although the disease has since been described in grain-eating Egyptian mummies). Today in a nation that has replaced animal fats and dairy with “healthy” carbohydrates, heart disease, like obesity and diabetes, is rampant.

 

Etc., etc. Go look at the reasons why the Americans got fat and why the world is following in their big footsteps. It's just that his reasoning makes so much sense to me. I'm still busy reading more on this topic and I find it very interesting. My December book will be his new one.

[lloydkayak]

I am stoked this is making mainstream media and support the endevour fully...

I responded amazingly to this type of diet and eating.

 

I have gone less disciplined on ruling out EVERYTHING to make life easier so that I dont fall off so weight loss has slowed down but is still steady. Over a very long time I am hovering above 100kg (of which a goodly portion is now muscle building too) from 135-140kg 3 or so years ago!

 

I am carb resistant obviously and this really works for me!

[Richard 1973]

Is Tim Noakes the Malema of medicine?

 

 

http://mg.co.za/arti...ma-of-medicine/

What amazes me everytime is how many poeple chirp in to support TN. Awesome!

[Richard 1973]

There was also the one called The Drinking Man's Diet. My dad showed me the booklet the other day, printed almost 50 years ago. He has been living the theory for decades, and that would explain the bottle of wine per meal. Think it was used by the RAF to get their pilots down to size. Involved a lot of whiskey and wine consumption while cutting out starches. Eat meat and wash it down with non-sugary alcohol (iow no sletsappies allowed).

 

I would have to see the results of a few randomised, double blind control trials. But you have my attention. :-)

[jugheaddave]

I respect Tim Noakes as a scientist and as a man.

This is all very exciting and intresting research.

However as previous people have mentioned, it may not apply to everone.

 

Everything in moderation!