Lance Armstrong Banned and Stripped of TDF Titles

['Dale]

It's official now with USADA.

 

Victories stripped since '98.

Life ban.

 

BOOM!

Edited August 24, 2012 by ' Dale

[TNT1]

Question

 

Since the TdF is a European race, what authority does USAADA have over it,

 

G

 

Lance holds (held) a USA license. They govern him along with USA Cycling. Same as why if a rider tests positive in any race, the UCI's first call is to have the rider's home country investigate and sanction them.

[awesme]

Ok, so it's always the home countries responsibility to investigate further once a + came out, does that not open the door for different standards being applied?

 

G

 

Lance holds (held) a USA license. They govern him along with USA Cycling. Same as why if a rider tests positive in any race, the UCI's first call is to have the rider's home country investigate and sanction them.

[TNT1]

Dont understand. Get caught while you are a pro rider, get a two year ban. Get people saying that you doped, get a lifetime ban and stripped of 7 titles and the people that are now the winners have all been caught at some stage of their careers. This is a disgrace, even if lance was positive.

Rather focus on going forward than to dig up the past and tarnish a person that has done more for the sport and other great causes than all of the guys that placed second in the 7 years combined.

 

Sorry? Lance did "more for the sport"? How so? It can just as easily be argued that he and Verbruggen were instrumental in it's greatest downfall.

[TNT1]

Ok, so it's always the home countries responsibility to investigate further once a + came out, does that not open the door for different standards being applied?

 

G

 

Precisely what happened to Contador. The Spanish federation cleared him, and the UCI fought tooth and nail to get him banned. Go figure.

[TNT1]

My favorite quotes:

Steven de Jongh (pro rider 1996 – 2009, now directeur sportif at Team Sky): "By deleting Lance, the list of winners doesn't become more credible."

Kathy LeMond (wife of Greg LeMond, Tour winner 1986, 1989, 1990): "Finally."

 

Chiara Passerini (wife of 2011 Tour de France winner Cadel Evans):" Hang on a sec, does that means that Ulrich has won how many more Tours now?I thought they stripped the title from him once too..interesting!"

 

The director of the Dutch Anti Doping Agency, Herman Ram, said on Friday that USADA had the right to strip Armstrong of his Tour de France titles. “A disciplinary committee always has that authority in the treatment of a doping case,” although he acknowledged that the UCI “may still challenge the decision at the highest sports tribunal CAS."

 

Brian Holm called the case “a great farce.” He told ekstrabladet.dk, “It will be quite entertaining to see who has won all the Tours - Alex Zülle, Jan Ullrich, Virenque, Rumsas .. There are many over the years - if not admitted - then at least have a little glitch in the machinery when it comes to the crunch,” indicating that none of the named riders rode clean.

“Let it go! It's hilarious to try to change the past. It is as comical as giving Ullrich a two-year suspension from jogging.”

Holm, currently directeur sportif with Omega Pharma-QuickStep, rode professionally from 1986 to 1998. In 2002 he admitted to having doped during his career, and in 2007 said that he twice used EPO in 1996 whilst with Team Telekom.

['Dale]

Now to see what the UCI does with USADA's verdict...

 

Hmm...

[TNT1]

Meh. I've always been an Adidas guy...

 

 

Armstrong's biggest sponsor and Livestrong partner Nike continued to support the American. "Lance has stated his innocence and has been unwavering on this position. Nike plans to continue to support Lance and the Lance Armstrong Foundation, a foundation that Lance created to serve cancer survivors,” the firm said in a statement.

[TNT1]

Now to see what the UCI does with USADA's verdict...

 

Hmm...

 

I see WADA backs USADA:

 

Lance Armstrong's decision not to contest the doping charges against him "means the charges had substance in them," World Anti Doping Agency president John Fahey has said. And the USADA, which brought the charges "now have the right to apply a penalty."

 

"I am confident and WADA is confident that the USADA acted within the WADA code, and that a court in Texas also decided not to interfere," Fahey told the Associated Press. "They now have the right to apply a penalty that will be recognized by all WADA code countries around the world.

"He had a right to contest the charges. He chose not to," Fahey said. "The simple fact is that his refusal to examine the evidence means the charges had substance in them. Under the rules, penalties can now be imposed."

 

 

UCI losing some friends?

Edited August 24, 2012 by TNT1

['Dale]

Meh. I've always been an Adidas guy...

 

 

Armstrong's biggest sponsor and Livestrong partner Nike continued to support the American. "Lance has stated his innocence and has been unwavering on this position. Nike plans to continue to support Lance and the Lance Armstrong Foundation, a foundation that Lance created to serve cancer survivors,” the firm said in a statement.

 

Crazy...

[TNT1]

Ahem. Permission to paraphrase Mr. Tygart as a new thread title?

 

"It is a sad day for all of us who love sport and our athletic heroes," Tygart stated today following Armstrong's public pronouncement. "This is a heartbreaking example of how the win-at-all-costs culture of sport, if left unchecked, will overtake fair, safe and honest competition, but for clean athletes, it is a reassuring reminder that there is hope for future generations to compete on a level playing field without the use of performance-enhancing drugs."

[Thug]

What a total and utter farce.

 

I wonder what Monsieur Prudhomme is going to do.

[#RAH#]

I’m no cycling guru, in actual fact only really started messing around on a bike about 2 years ago. However I was very aware of Mr Armstrong and always thought he was an all time great. In actual fact I still do.

 

I do to also appreciate the work that governing body's put into the sport they are involved in. But when these people go to such an extreme to strip an athlete of his achievements it makes me wonder. One word comes to mind bull***t.

 

Were they not the authority governing the sport in the first place? They too should be stripped of their authority. I hate it when people point fingers like this. Are they not man enough to admit that the error was there’s more than his?

 

Yes he was not supposed to take performance enhancing substances, and I feel sorry for the guys who were not and lost to him. But he was at the time a professional sports man; it was his job to win. You can bet your bottom dollar that he was forced to do so because the governing bodies were to busy hob knobbing about and living the good life while he was training his butt off. In actual fact I’ll bet they were having a good old time socializing with the who’s who in the cycling world, while he was doing his job professionally. And sacrificing a large portion of his life to promote their sport.

 

So I hope for Mr Armstrong the authorities stop floating around playing GOD and start doing the jobs they are paid to do properly. And if the fools don’t know what I mean how’s about starting by putting the amount of effort and time into the sport that the athletes themselves do.

 

And don’t bring the money up because I recon there were a good couple of them earning a lot more than the champ was earning in 1998.

 

 

Just my 2 cents worth

Edited August 24, 2012 by #RAH#

[TNT1]

Just my 2 cents worth

 

No offence, but I read your thingy twice, and your two cents couldn't buy a used, torn livewrong band.

[Slowbee]

I am a liar, and that is the truth.

[TNT1]

I am a liar, and that is the truth.

 

****me! Lance hacked slowmod's account!