Spinnekop Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 [quote=amorynsI am really impressed with Robyn as she has gone from a good rider to even better being the workhorse for Anriette....I actually think if a team had to work for her she would win quite a number of races Now we are getting somewhere...... So.......if I was Robyn, I would move teams......working for Anriette was always a problem. You do not get the recognition you deserve........ Think it was the same issue with Merissa? (Not sure though!! )
Spinnekop Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 once again....bringing in future stars...not the golden oldies.....hel ons is nerens op die wereldranglys nie en het dus niks om te verloor om jong span te stuur.... Waar. Maar die jong span moet leer. Hoekom dink jy het Cherise so goed gevaar op die wereld kampioenskappe? Omdat sy van nature weet watter wiel om te volg en wat om te doen wanneer????? Nope.Ek het gesien hoe hard Cherry met haar werk. Sy het BAIE geleer by Ronel.....en ek is seker sy sal die eerste een wees wat dit erken..... So my vraag is......moet ons 'n jong span stuur wat net gaan soos die spul juniors attackl, niks leer uit hul foute nie en geen ondervinding optel nie.....net 'n gloryfied training ride.... Of. Stuur jy 'n paar "golden oldies" saam om die jong bokkies te leer wat om te doen waar.....?
Danger Dassie Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Stuur jy 'n paar "golden oldies" saam om die jong bokkies te leer wat om te doen waar.....? About the most sane I've read on the hub!!
miss V Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 ek het nou eers hierdie thread gelees, na ek gisteraand met groot gejuig daarvan gehoor het. Sjoe, maar die meisie kinders word kwaad, en spidey kan ook nie 'n wag voor sy hand sit nie, maar ek moet erken en het my pap gelag. maar nou ja. Klink my ons KGB sal maar altyd shots vat. soos reeds ges?, geen span in enige sport is nog ooit op 100% meriete gekies nie, deal with it. en ja, spidey, verseker moet daar ouer ladies ook saam gaan. anyway very entertaining, veral vetpens. hahahahahhaha
epoh Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 as ek nou hier van jupiter se kant af kan inkom en se dat.. Lance Armstrong het ook elke jaar geen vorm gehad of vorm gewys nie.. maar hy het elke jaar die Tour de France gewen!!!
Spinnekop Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Nog 'n vragie....Is dit nie beter vir die selekteerders om dan 'n paar van die "golden oldies" saam te vat as bestuurders en 'n vol jong span vat wat ry......en die golden oldies gesels dan net oor die radios?
Breeze Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Why oh why can the same approach as we started with the junior men not be followed? we need to start " testing " these girls diffenrent from race situations - teamwork might for instance lead for a rider such as De Groot, make sure Schoeman gets to the line. South-Africa has races that finishes in sprints - Anriette is the best sprinter I believe - so if any of the other teams want to take her to the line, their problem and probably their loss. Anriette has the benefit and advantage of Robyn who is a strong team player - good for the both of them. Lots of things could be different. We sometimes only focus on the same girls over and over. I would say - do a camp - properly organized, with criteria set in place and expectances etc- future plans laid donw - after 4 days you might have the same or a slightly different picture. For instance, I made a personal shortlist of 15 juniors I thought before the camp would feature at the selection camp - in the end - only 10 of those 15 is in the group 14. And 4 completely different names came to the front. That shows - don't just go on past results. My 2 cents - we have a future medal prospect for the worlds and possible for the olympics (in years to come), but to only focus and preparing one or 2 young girls will not get us the medals - we need to have a team of possible winners - this NZ tour is not the end of the world - nor do I even believe it is the start as adding riders who does not even believe and want Europe or international racing to be part of their personal goals anymore, asks me the question as to what is the plans for the future of ladies cycling - is there even a plan - make it public for us all to understand the reasoning behind this logic. The Italians arrived at each of the world champs with almost each of their riders as a possible winner - why - it improved their chances. In fact, I think looking at the world champs - jnr men and ladies, elite men and ladies - they did the best. Why should we go and reinvent the wheel when their is actually already a plan that can be followed.
Spinnekop Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Kom Klapperknop. Het jy enige kennis op die onderwerp of 'n opinie op die gebied of het jy net gepost om weer die pot te stirr.......????????????
amoryns Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Kom Klapperknop. Het jy enige kennis op die onderwerp of 'n opinie op die gebied of het jy net gepost om weer die pot te stirr.......???????????? wow bewys net weereens sy punt
Christie Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 But Lance was also almost never selected for his National team. He went to the 2000 Olympics, but his radio didn't work... Christie2008-01-17 02:02:50
Spinnekop Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Kom Klapperknop. Het jy enige kennis op die onderwerp of 'n opinie op die gebied of het jy net gepost om weer die pot te stirr.......???????????? wow bewys net weereens sy punt Onderwerp of Stirr? Amoryn? Jou post? Kom nou....doen bietjie moeite en antwoord bietjie..........stop stirring....Very easy realy. Sooo...... Why were there no camp held before the selection? Did CSA not have any interest in the girls racing?? What are they busy with if they are not interested in sending the best team over????
Doug Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 ek sal graag 'n dames span kies wat ry met hul monde..sorry bene. ons sal daar kom..... gee net kans ..lol
Christie Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 I have got a nasty suspicion that the root cause of the problem may be that CSA sucks!! It would answer all the questions asked here, and some others:1. Why was XYZ not included? Because CSA sucks.2. Why no training camp or critera for ladies? Because CSA sucks.3. Why did Ronel retire? Because CSA sucks.4. Why was the wrong list anounced? Because CSA sucks. etc. Perhaps this should be the answer to life, the univers & everything on the Hub insterad of 47?
amoryns Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 ek stir nie..ek het klaar my opinie gegee en jy joune.... stem saam met breeze.....nooi hele paar girls na training weekend..nie net die gewones en toets almal op dieselfde meriete
KlapperKnop Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Kom Klapperknop. Het jy enige kennis op die onderwerp of 'n opinie op die gebied of het jy net gepost om weer die pot te stirr.......???????????? Spidey, it was not my intention to stir the pot ... I merely raised my opinion about respect! Further, I personally do not have any problem with the selection of the team and as I am no "expert" on the subject of selecting a team; I can not contribute to the discussion ... Sorry Spidey!KlapperKnop2008-01-17 02:27:40
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